posted on October 5, 2001 10:53:37 AM newLaneFamilyIf you do not like what eBay is doing just go to Yahoo or SYI or some other auction site. What good is it doing to sit here and complain about it. Leave, get out, go somewhere else, find something there to complain about.
Does this mean you have decided not to offer your usual comments on threads concerning PayPal? Or are you just throwing stones around in a glass house?
posted on October 5, 2001 10:58:53 AM new
So I guess then by the same reasoning that I should leave get out blahblah because I don't like blahblah, I could say that anyone who has said now about 100 times that they don't like these "whining" posts should leave get out etc., of AW, not read them, and ESPECIALLY not continue to post to these hated threads with all these terrible whiners????
posted on October 5, 2001 07:22:40 PM new
Everyone,
Enough of the bickering. Remember, please, to discuss the topic, not the individual.
packer
Your post is way too personal. Everyone has a right to express his/her opinions, as long as they stay within the CGs. If someone's posts bother you, please consider using your ignore button.
posted on October 6, 2001 03:32:53 AM newExecutiveGirlLaneFamily, For someone who hates all the "whining", you sure do read and post to a lot of those kinds of threads. And, in essence, you are whining about us whining.
Yes, when I see something like this thread going on I do my best to ring in. At least for 4-5 posts I got people thinking/talking about something else but bashing eBay and AFA. I do not usually post more than once maybe twice to a thread like this one. Usually the second is to answer to things like this.
uaruDoes this mean you have decided not to offer your usual comments on threads concerning PayPal? Or are you just throwing stones around in a glass house?
I have been way to easy on them lately. All this negativity here has kept me away from the other board. Now there is a company I wish would go away There is a small difference in that I ask people not to use them when dealing with me. I do not post my auctions on them and then complain about it. I ask people not to use it in transactions with me, they do, then i complain. Also they have out right stolen money from me when following the rules. In my opinion my comments on PayPal are a bid different because of how they are used. I still hope you and yours are doing well.
GreedBaySo I guess then by the same reasoning that I should leave get out blahblah because I don't like blahblah, I could say that anyone who has said now about 100 times that they don't like these "whining" posts should leave get out etc., of AW, not read them, and ESPECIALLY not continue to post to these hated threads with all these terrible whiners????
That is exactly why I do not post that much on here. You have posted 1/3 as much as me in the few days you have been a member than I have posted in over a year of being a member. My posts have spanned the boards in most every section not just here at the eBay board. I do a lot of things on the other auctions board.
packerLaneFamily Your cheer leading is not helping the problem. And quit frankly I'm sick of seeing it. You better get a grip on the real problem that is affecting most of us sellers. We are hurting big time. Most of us are not selling the ready made WTC hooks, we are selling what we have stocked up for all summer. I'm sickened by what is being sold on A4A.....if you are part of that......SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
My cheer leading in threads like this does not help, it just makes those people that are angry, more. I don't like that cheer leading label but will accept it. There are things that eBay does that I do not like for example this checkout thing coming up. Not interested in it at all but I am not one to start threads hating it and telling everyone we need to start pounding eBay with letters about it and how bad it is. I will express my opinion about it and probably here as well as on the eBay boards but not in the same hatred manor s the rest of you post in. I try not to hate but just to dislike. I try to change things in a positive ways that will work not hope that they fail.
And quit frankly I'm sick of seeing it. As stated above I do not post that much here but now you know how I feel with all the other threads complaining about AFA. I think it is great and I feel like giving in that way. I do not care if people like it, join it or as many do give in other ways. That is great just don't condemn this one method that is good for other people. I do not know what you sell nor does it matter but for this example I will use another poster here on AW named tomwiii. He sells monkey porn and many of you know by reading the threads How do you think he would feel if I started threads all over here and other places about how much I hated monkey porn. He would be offended and probably post in that thread how good it is and be labeled a cheer leader.
You better get a grip on the real problem that is affecting most of us sellers.
The real problem that is affecting the sellers are the same problem that affect sellers at this time each year and what happened on 9/11. September is not know for being that great of a month at least no in my three years of selling. It has been posted by others here also so that is not just me speaking. Oh and for the full timers that say they will have to get a job if they can not get better profits and even worse they will just have to loose the income cause they can not do another job I know exactly where you coming from brother. No, I do not depend on eBay for income as i have stated elsewhere but because of 911 my wife, who works for American airlines, could have lost her job. for the first 2 weeks they were cutting hours where they could then they got rid of 20,000 people which luckily did not affect us and now they want more hours out of the people left. Talk about a deal that will mess with someone.
I'm sickened by what is being sold on A4A.....if you are part of that......SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
I have had about 15 AFA auctions close now maybe 20. I am putting new merchandise out for auction. The same new computer parts I sell everyday on eBay. I am not ashamed of that but very proud. I have committed 100 items, 1 for each day.
Well this is probably my longest post here, hopefully this will explain some of my positions to each and like pattaylor said, please consider using your ignore button although I hope no one does that cause even thought I do not like some of what the rest of you say I do not ignore it, I just bite my lip.
posted on October 6, 2001 04:44:15 AM new
Well I'm gonna now "whine" about the people who use the word "whine" whenever they don't agree w/a thread.
I am soooooooooooooo impressed w/all you hard-a**ed successful ebusiness types who think everyone w/a gripe is whining. My admiration knows no bounds. <---dripping w/sarcasm.
A4A is a scam on many levels and anyone w/a brain knows it.
eBay doesn't do anything that they don't think benefits eBay - which is fine as they're a business. I believe you can be a successful business while screwing your competitors - you'll pay in the end however if you're doing the same thing to your customers. And sellers, big and small are eBay's customers.
So for all you "adapt or die" folks out there, yes, Darwin proved that was true. But, there's also strength in numbers. When there are only 25 sellers left on eBay, and 50 buyers because the merchandise is so redundant, I hope you remember your cool non-whining stance.
Not long ago, people came to this board for advice. Now people come to brag in the face of others' misfortune. It's enough to make you hurl.
posted on October 6, 2001 07:29:12 AM new
It would behoove you to make some sense sometime, at least once.
---That is exactly why I do not post that much on here. You have posted 1/3 as much as me in the few days you have been a member than I have posted in over a year of being a member.---
So what? I'm not the one complaining about other posters "whining," and how much I hate them doing that while I whine away myself in every post I send like you do, you are. Logic dictates that if you don't like something, you don't continue to read it, or constantly do it yourself. Is "logic" an unfamiliar concept???
--- My posts have spanned the boards in most every section not just here at the eBay board. I do a lot of things on the other auctions board.---
Are all of them whining about "whiners," or just your personal whining in general???
posted on October 6, 2001 07:41:48 AM new
Greedbay,
It appears that you have made your point. Any further dialogue regarding your opinion about whining and whiners is unnecessary to the discussion of the topic.
Please heed the above warning by Pat to discuss the topic, not the individual , or you will find your posting privileges suspended.
posted on October 8, 2001 08:19:06 PM newExecutive Girl
I just want to say that I really like your waving flag. It can be mesmerizing ... especially when listening to CNN.
I have only listed one item in the last couple of weeks, but I can tell you that I bought a really nice laptop for just over $40. That certainly makes me think there is a problem with bidders. BTW, it was not an A4A Auction.
posted on October 8, 2001 09:40:10 PM new
okay becky,so you won a laptop for just 40 dollars.
well,who is the seller and is he romanian??
have you sent payment yet?
have you received the item yet,why dont you report back to us after you examine this 40 dollars laptop/
posted on October 8, 2001 10:41:03 PM new
7 October - actual numbers -
Auction of America
218 items ended 160 sold 73%
Total sales $1,916.51
ave sale $11.98
At this rate it will take ebaY 52,178 days to reach 100mil
Info copyright TAG 2001
posted on October 9, 2001 04:02:20 AM newmrgroup, the numbers don't add up. There are 17,000+ auctions active -- there's no chance that "only" 218 closed on a given day. Maybe in one category or a sub-category. 10/7 was a Sunday too -- it's more probable that 4,000 closed than 218.
Still no doubt eBay is "way behind" their goal. It will be a very embarrassing PR issue for them.
As an aside, I wouldn't want to be an eBay "partner". Their arm is going to hurt from all the "twisting" it will receive in the coming two months. Unfortunately for eBay, most companies are in pretty dire straights right now. I suspect their ability to "donate more" is severely limited.
Still holding my breath waiting for that chart/graph on the home page showing progress. Can't... hold... out... much... longer.... )
posted on October 9, 2001 04:13:29 AM new
I saw a disturbing piece on TV last night about Sept 11th fund. They are all screwed up. 83mil so far. The interest alone is staggering. Nothing shelled out,.. yet people are suffering with their losses. I HOPE SOMEONE IS POLICING THEM!!!
Sorry if I offended you ... I was trying to make a point that the bidders are not around or I would not have gotten the laptop at the price I did.
It arrived already and my daughter has been having a great time with it. It was a little dirty, but she cleaned it up without a problem. It was noted that the battery wears down quickly. Not a problem for me, my 10-year-old can always plug it in.
It is not the newest computer around ... but it is perfect for what she needs ... and at a bargain price.
posted on October 10, 2001 07:01:59 AM new
hi becky,
thanks you so much for the update,i am glad to hear there is a happy story on laptop.
sounds like a great buy.
posted on October 14, 2001 01:40:21 AM new
Hi, ExecutiveGirl. Interesting thread. I agree with Sadie, anyone with a brain knows that this is just another scam by the "new and improved" eBay. Sorry, but I have no desire to adapt to the new eBay. It leaves me feeling dirty and abused. If you're comfortable with that, more power to ya.
I sure don't put much stock in what the cheerleaders are saying. I recall one vocal eBay cheerleader who (it turns out) was running dutch auctions and then circumventing fees by selling to underbidders. Hey, she couldn't say enough nice things about eBay! Even if eBay was clean, which it isn't, I have no wish to sell cheap imitation "ginsu" knives or guaranteed fat burner pills.
eBay is running on vapors now. They are succeeding based purely on bragging rights. Every analyst says eBay stocks are overpriced, and every report shows auction final values are dropping like a rock.
eBay was built on collectibles and flea market/bargain items. Sales are down, prices are down across the board, and sellers can't even give their stuff away at cost. There is NO WAY that eBay can transition to retail items.
eBay is once again cooking the books, fattening the calf for slaughter and in three to five years it will all be over. eBay execs aren't stupid and they know the new eBay won't float.
posted on October 14, 2001 06:26:41 AM new
And to all the eBay cheerleaders who use the phrase "eBay said..." as some kind of mantra of truth, ESPECIALLY to the ones here that had the nerve to comment on the tax issue-
The majority of the funds that AFA monies are supposedly going to (of course, no accounting yet) have NOT been granted 501(c)(3) status by the IRS yet, so nothing donated to them CAN BE tax deductible. This includes the despicable United Way's September 11th Fund, which by their own accounting has collected well over 120 million, and distributed only 6 million, that to other charities most of which have distributed NOT A PENNY to the victims. It also includes the Twin Towers Fund. An eBay "tax" receipt for "contributions" to non-501(c)(3) orgs is about as useful as
as the cyber air that came from eBay at first when they proclaimed that they set this up in conjunction with the IRS. The problem here is NOT the deduction itself- I'm sure many people would say that they'd particiapte in AFA without it- the problem is eBay TELLING people about it's "deductible" status, which could very well put people in jeopardy with the IRS based on false assumptions, and people=eBay users. Thanks again, eBay.
posted on October 22, 2001 01:24:18 PM new
Thanks for the updated figure.....sad isn't it!
About the only thing sadder than AFA's lack of success is the ongoing parade of money making concerts/benefits/schemes that appear almost weekly while the news media reports people who have yet to receive the first dime of assistance from the BILLION+ dollars that has already been collected!
"We can't even get people helped....BUT SEND US MORE!!" DUH!!!!
Let's face an ugly fact: At some point we have to take care of each other AND the general economy instead of funnelling every "spare" dollar into NYC!
