posted on February 28, 2004 10:00:20 AM
I don't like mean political or social posts - I - but that is their choice and I wouldn't try to stop them.
Neither party or politician is going to do us any good. We have to do it ourselves. Refusing to take advice from someone just because they support a cause or politician you don't, seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face. If that were the case - I would probably never take advice because I think they all stink!!!
posted on February 28, 2004 11:06:58 AM
You obviously missed my point. I could care less if you wish to put banners, tag lines, etc in a place where it is supposed to go.
There is no smoking in places for a reason. People should have the right to go somewhere that they don't want to be barraged by smoke, politics, or whatever they choose. This forum is about ebay and the forum within itself.
I have my own political views, and honestly I am very happy to share them with anyone who wants to hear it. I do so on a daily basis with some friends of mine. I don't feel compelled to go to a website and go to a forum that is supposed to be about ebay only to be barraged by the same thing I see on the news every day.
You act like I am suggesting censorship. This isn't about censorship. This is about using the proper avenues to give your opinion. I am guessing that none of us use our auction listings to give our political opinion, etc. I would estimate that close to 100% of sellers choose not to do so because we know it isn't professional to do it there and could affect your final bid price. I would love to see if any of your political statements, cultural views, etc make it to your auctions. This is of course with exception to selling political items. Try to list your ebay Beanie Baby auctions with anti-sematic or anti-gay slogans.
posted on February 28, 2004 11:18:52 AM
kiara- actually, i copied and pasted twelvepoles comments yesterday. obviously he didn't remove his statement a few days ago, otherwise it wouldn't have been there on Friday when I used it.
i find it amusing to say the least that people feel it is ok to post their political/cultural views here. if they feel so strongly about it, they should also feel compelled to post it in their auction descriptions so that bidders know who they are buying from. perhaps you should also put a sign in your front yard so your neighbors know who they are living next to. There is nothing to be ashamed of if you're a Kerry supporter, or a Bush supporter, or being Anti-Gay, or Anti-Jewish, or Anti-whatever the flavor of the day is. Is there??? Everyone in the world should know who you are instead of hiding behind a computer and giving your opinion in a place that is "safe". i highly doubt you do so in those places, so why should you do it here?
posted on February 28, 2004 11:44:35 AM
i'm not ashamed of anything. i changed my id on ebay a few years back and couldn't change my vendio name to match it because vendio doesn't allow you to change your name after you open your account, only your password. i would have had to redo all of my inventory otherwise.
my ebay name is atomicpimp, i am near 3600 positives with a 99.3% positive rating. nice try though fluffy.
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"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to the people who sleep under the very blanket of freedom I provide, and then question the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
[ edited by wgm on Feb 28, 2004 11:47 AM ]
posted on February 28, 2004 11:51:36 AM
wgm: as I had mentioned previously, this forum is about ebay and about the forum itself. so yes, the question of "what is the best thread title" does have to do with this forum.
as for craigslist... the thread was about using craigslist as a means to sell items bought on ebay and to use ebay as a means to sell items bought on craigslist. so yes, it was about ebay. you are obviously mixing my words up. when I say I get what I want for them, I am referring to what I sell. If I post a chair for $50.00, more than likely that is exactly what I get for it. Don't quote something unless you plan to quote things properly.
i would think you could do better than this...
[ edited by rustygumbo on Feb 28, 2004 12:01 PM ]
posted on February 28, 2004 11:53:32 AM
rustygumbo, don't pretend to be all that innocent.
Twelvepole last used that expression on the 21st and then the thread dropped. Then on the 26th you bumped up that same thread for the sole purpose of your little rant. I did a site search to see when Twelve last used that sig line. Here is proof for all to see.
posted on February 28, 2004 11:58:47 AM
kiara- "dropped his one signature line the other day and YOU were the one to dig it up again last night."
obviously i interpreted "dropped" as removed, which twelvepole did not do. he/she may have posted it on the 21st, but the point is that it was posted to begin with. i only used this as one example, and in no way did I intend to cast light onto one posting as the sole reason for my thread to begin with. As I stated in my original message, I have noticed an increase over the last few weeks in this practice.
posted on February 28, 2004 12:25:03 PM
Gumby, quit being picky, Twelvepole stopped using it after that thread. But I think you know that and now you're just making excuses.
Now play along with the rest of us or I'll drag up that other thread where you talked about your roomie suing you and it had nothing to do with ebay either.
posted on February 28, 2004 12:36:56 PM
Ralphie says: "play nice...grrrr!"
CNBC: "Unless the economy adds at least 2.3 million jobs by the end of the year, Bush will go down as the first president since Hoover to preside over a four-year term in which total employment fell."
posted on February 28, 2004 12:56:59 PM
picky??? man, i wish i was truly picky. picky over degrading comments about jews and links to anti-gay political sites?
i am not jewish, i am not gay. I am not for censorship, and I believe everyone has a valid opinion to give, no matter the subject. if you wish to debate me politically, then we can take it to the Round Table. I believe these comments, links, banners belong somewhere else beyond the realm of a forum about ebay.
posted on February 28, 2004 01:08:41 PM
There is a big difference between discussions getting slightly off topic (as we have seen in the past people bring up their pets, travel plans, etc.) and the overt posturing that RusyGumbo is (rightfully) complaining about.
There is a roundtable area provided for these, and if the political activists can't get people to go there and participate, they should take it as a sign that people in the eBay discussion are not particularly interested and should be spared. The smoking area analogy was a good one - if you want bad smells, fine, just don't stink up everyone's breathing space.
posted on February 28, 2004 01:10:08 PM
Enough of this pelorusity.
Gumby, you started this hullaballoo because you said you detected a "trend" towards political or social issue statements with no eBay content in eBay Outlook postings.
Let's take a step back and look at that.
On September 12, there were many non-eBay postings.
This last winter, when the cold snap in the East was particularly severe, there were many non-eBay postings.
During the Southern California firestorms, there were many non-eBay postings.
When Saddam Hussein was captured, there were many non-eBay postings.
You know what? A few days or so after each of those events, the non-eBay postings CEASED and we were back to the same-old, same-old.
Which is exactly what will happen this time, too.
It's an election cycle. It'll end. Live and let live.
"God made the Pelorus for practice, and then he made the School Board." -- Mark Twain
posted on February 28, 2004 05:52:52 PM
Don't see why it should matter so much to some of you, if the poster feels comfortable airing out his/her laundry in this forum.
Well if anyone don't like it then pass it up and keep moving along. Censor your own reading and make your own comments either on the subject or on anything you like .....who cares?????????? I for one don't care.......but I can say that each time I read a posting I find out something I either didn't know or just something that was forgotten, so just keep talking and I for one will either read it or pass it up.........I'm sure it doesn't matter to anyone.
I feel if YOU feel it Important enough to come in here and mention it then that is your views, and your choice. But picking on someone for doing what YOU don't like would make it YOUR problem not there problem.
Now I say get Rid of Bush..............lol
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posted on February 28, 2004 08:13:48 PM
I gotta admit, that's pretty funny. But I'm sure you could also find some funny pictures of Abe Lincoln. Let's pass on Bill Clinton.
posted on February 28, 2004 10:39:11 PM
RG, I think that's like Brier Rabbit saying "dont' throw me in the ...whatever that prickly bush he lived in.
Now we have all the makings of a 15 page thread.
But I must confess...Auctionace...LMAO!!!
I am emailing that to all my friends!
by the way...
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All the monkeys aren't in the zoo,
Every day you meet quite a few,
So you see it's all up to you.
You can be better than you are,
You could be swingin' on a star
posted on February 29, 2004 12:26:45 AM
Actually, I believe the justification for "on topic" discussion is that to do so offers all parties haven from the chaos of so-called open forums and their endless spiral of self-serving diatribes.
But, as has been pointed out, this too shall pass. And soon we'll be back to the ever-so-joyous rehashing of all things eBay...wherein spoons are identified, feedback is fed upon and all hope of profit is lost...
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them."- John Wayne/The Shootist"(from the novel by Glendon Swarthout)
I posted part of that sig to illicit a response from a poster here in the EO, I got the response I knew I would get and removed the sig line...
However my other sig is not up for discussion by you or anyone else, and yes I do have a bumper sticker on my truck for all to see...
If I could legally link it in my eBay auctions I certainly would do so there... however you're beating a dead horse, but hey guess what this non-eBay thread is the most popular right now...
Someone's sig line is an expression... it is not part of the post... most rational people can read someone's post and not even care about the sig line...
What you are asking is when some one posts about eBay, they stop being who they are; if that is not censorship, then I guess I don't understand the word and you can explain it for me?
Make a nice sig for yourself... you will feel alot better...
posted on February 29, 2004 01:46:06 PM
Twelvepole- Your "Ain't Life Grand" tag perplexes me. I suppose you are claiming that your life is grand. Perhaps it is because of your ability to paint your beliefs and push your ideals upon others. However, Life may not be grand for those who have to read the endless barrage of crap that people add to their comments, questions, etc.
Ironically, I knew this would be a subject that would bring tons of debate to the floor or forum. You are right that this is probably the most popular thread right now. However, that wasn't my intention. There are thousands of us who use this system to do our work, ask for input, and give feedback regarding Ebay. People often get off track, and change the subject often. I am not criticizing them. Keeping this an open forum for anything else other than what this thread is about devalues the very reason why this forum exists.
I don't plan to add any additional comments at this time. I belive I have made my opinion known, and as such there is no reason for me to continue this debate.
posted on February 29, 2004 02:32:30 PMHowever, Life may not be grand for those who have to read the endless barrage of crap that people add to their comments, questions, etc.
HAVE to read?
People often get off track, and change the subject often. I am not criticizing them.
Then who exactly are you criticizing?
Keeping this an open forum for anything else other than what this thread is about devalues the very reason why this forum exists.
Huh?
I don't plan to add any additional comments at this time.
Okay.
there is no reason for me to continue this debate.
posted on February 29, 2004 06:50:04 PM
I suggest the self-serve pump..you could easily save $160 or so a gallon.
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them."- John Wayne/The Shootist"(from the novel by Glendon Swarthout)
posted on February 29, 2004 06:53:42 PM
Arco reg. is $2.09......and ,,,,,,climbing! Southern Cal. Insanity!!!!!!!!!
1.Please !.BEFORE Bidding.
2.NPB's have No rights,Posting. NEED be BLOCKED by e bay.(But they'r NOT!)Upon final filing of NPB.
3.Naru's . Goodbye after 3,DIFFERENT, Sellers file NPB's. Negs do nothing. filing 4 PARTIAL fees DOES.
4.A ing period. Like 20 days of HOOPS on NPB's. Many give up. Works! 4 e bay. They keep K's of $'s.
5.E bay release Millions of DEAD I.D's The PHONE Company does after a period of time. 0 activity in 5 years?
6.E bay, pls place "location" in the auction WHILE it's current. After the fact, Worthless.
The above is strictly my opinion.
posted on February 29, 2004 08:49:27 PM
My suggestion for Rustygumbo:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2990443724&category=45206
[ edited by parklane64 on Feb 29, 2004 08:49 PM ]
posted on February 29, 2004 09:20:05 PM
"..In real (inflation adjusted dollars) gas is actually still cheaper than it was back in 1980.
Even though a gallon of unleaded in the US has shot up 21 cents per gallon recently...
And Gasoline is fast approaching the peak prices seen during both Gulf Wars...
Though many in the press are claiming that gas prices are at an all time high...
When adjusted for inflation, it is clear that gasoline prices are far below the 1981 inflation-adjusted peak of $2.94."
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them."- John Wayne/The Shootist"(from the novel by Glendon Swarthout)
posted on February 29, 2004 11:37:50 PM
The Bush White House has blamed the OPEC cartel from getting even with the President for the invasion of Iraq by raising the price of crude oil. For once the President has figured out how it all works.
-------------- sig file ----------- *There is no conclusive evidence that life is serious*
!.BEFORE Bidding. 
. NEED be BLOCKED by e bay.(But they'r NOT!)Upon final filing of NPB.
ing period. Like 20 days of HOOPS on NPB's. Many give up. Works! 4 e bay. They keep K's of $'s.