nettak
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posted on April 21, 2001 08:52:54 PM
MaddieNicks I can laugh about this now, because my kids' are all out of high school. When I used to go up to the school for whatever reason some of the teachers used to walk the other way...... gee do you think they could have been trying to avoid me. Too bad, because if it was someone I wanted to say something to I used to chase after them and they had to listen.
Mind you they could not get away from me too easily, especially when the kids' were still in Primary School (grades 1-7), because I was at the school all the time as I was on the P&C for almost 4 years before I quit.
I wish I was over there, because I could tackle this prawn of a Principle with one arm tied behind my back. LOL  I bet he is a weasle of a man. His sort usually are. JMO
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krs
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posted on April 21, 2001 09:15:00 PM
"mother loin protecting my cub".
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HEPburn
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posted on April 21, 2001 09:21:24 PM
Loins are fierce. So are Lions. Both can bite
If they are able to stop this child from signing on the bus, will the deaf community next be banned from signing in a public restaurant? It's disgusting that that school would even attempt this.
Again, I would fight tooth and claw (or should I say loin and claw) for MY child if this was happening to him.
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nettak
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posted on April 21, 2001 09:36:00 PM
Okay smarty pants, so we can't all be perfect. LOL But do I seem to remember something a while back about a dairy cow or was that a "diary" cow. haha
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krs
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posted on April 21, 2001 09:47:57 PM
Biting Loins. Oh My.
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nettak
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posted on April 21, 2001 09:55:30 PM
But biting loins could never have as sharp teeth or be as sharp to as the master, I'm sure.
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krs
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posted on April 21, 2001 10:12:52 PM
Anything is possible in modern dentistry. A set of choppers...., a little Dentucreme.
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nettak
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posted on April 21, 2001 10:26:02 PM
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krs
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posted on April 21, 2001 10:48:45 PM
There could be consequences that that principal never envisioned as he upheld the actions of that bus driver.
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nettak
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posted on April 21, 2001 11:29:42 PM
You can be sure the principle did not ever imagine that there would be such a public outcry over this situation.
I am wondering how he is going to softly back peddle, or if he is going to be too proud to admit his mistake and apologize to the young girl and her family for the grief that they have been put through.
I do not know enough about your education system, but would a higher power ever step in and over turn the principles decision?
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Powerhouse
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:02:24 AM
Right now his technique seems to be to stick his head in the sand and hope everyone lets it blow over, because he sure doesn't seem to be responding to anyones email.
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krs
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:06:15 AM
Would you respond to kibbitzer email from unknowns around the country?
He'll be answering to his school board.
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saabsister
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:09:04 AM
nettak This school district has a Board of Education which, according to its website, meets on April 26 for an Annual Organization/Regular Meeting. The names of the Superintendent and President are on the website which can be found by following the link for the school (at the bottom of the Yahoo article) and then clicking on the District Home Page on the school's website (at the bottom of the page).
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nettak
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:19:04 AM
Thank you for the information. I did see the web page, but it is so different to our school system that I did not understand how it all works. Here in Australia if one of our Principles or even a teacher were to do something like this it would go to the District Office of Education and then on to the Director General. We do not have boards for our school, unless you count the P&C groups and they do not have much say in the way the principle or teachers conduct themselves.
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Powerhouse
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:22:14 AM
He could at least take a page from ebay and respond with a form letter.
Something along the line of:
Dear Sir, Ma'am, parent, concerned citizen, et al,
Thank you for writing to me.
Our school prides itself on it's cleanliness.
We did plant new tulips this year along the entrance road.
We will be conducting a play Friday night in the auditorium at 7pm. The sixth graders will be putting on a fine rendition of Snow White.
....I am really a student in detention that is being forced to write this stupid form letter and send it as a personal reply to the 10,000 people that emailed him! Help me! HELP ME!....
I hope this addresses your concerns and hope to meet you at the next PTA meeting, Tuesday night at 8pm.
Regards,
XXXXXX
Now, wouldn't that be better than nothing?
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krs
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:39:21 AM
LoL
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saabsister
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:53:37 AM
nettak I'm not sure about the Boards of Education in New Jersey, but in my state the local Board is elected. Rather than pressure the principal - who may never tell the Board about the email directed to him - it would be better to address the email to the Board. Even if we can't elect them, the Board members will know that they look bad to people worldwide.
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nettak
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posted on April 22, 2001 06:30:34 AM
Thanks again for the information. I have not emailed and I am not even sure if that is the way to go. I don't think that it would really carry a lot of weight with this person to be honest. What I feel is needed is a community effort. Everyone needs to be on some sort of petition. This is not just a problem for one family, but rather a problem for every parent who has a child at this particular school.
Alright at present this is about a little deaf girl, who is being victimized for signing on the bus. But what will it be next and who will be the next victim. Every parent at that school has a duty of care to every child attending and the parents are the ones' who need to be acting on this matter. JMO
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saabsister
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posted on April 22, 2001 06:37:35 AM
It would be interesting to know the results of the next Board meeting. Maybe many parents will show up - they should for the reasons you mention. Usually the meetings are open to the public.
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nettak
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posted on April 22, 2001 06:49:09 AM
I have to admit that if it were my child this was about, I would be rounding up as many other parents as I could, and making sure that they went along to this meeting.
I really do hope that there is enough community support to get this matter resolved. The principle should be made to apoligize to the family, and should be removed as principle, maybe a bit of councelling would not go astray for him as well.
Ooops.
[ edited by nettak on Apr 22, 2001 07:41 AM ]
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Powerhouse
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posted on April 22, 2001 06:49:58 AM
According to this story the BOE has already decided and sided with the principal:
http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/dailynews/signlang_ban010418.html#1
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chococake
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posted on April 22, 2001 03:00:49 PM
Maybe some of you may remember that my son is deaf, and I thought you might find this interesting.
Several Community Colleges here teach signing. One of them had a play done in sign only. It ran for three nights, and was sold out. The school has a large auditorium, and he never thought he wouldn't get a seat. Well, he didn't and he was very disappointed that he didn't get to see the play.
He said last night there was a line of people still hoping to get in, but they were turned away.
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MaddieNicks
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:13:04 PM
Holy cow...what a bunch of losers! According to the original story printed in the NJ Star Register (see jameSOBlivion's post below for link please)
says that the hearing loss she has is a result of an "incident" that took place in a school hallway last November when another student set off a bottle rocket in the hallway near her. These people already have a lawsuit pending against the school for that!
The contact for the Edison, NJ branch of Alliance for Disabled in Action says "Her freedom of speech was violated...This is her way of communicating, and the principal apparently does not know about the (Americans with Disabilities Act) laws nor the First Amendment to our Constitution, freedom of speech. You can be sure most of our deaf and hard-of-hearing population will be outraged by this."
Yep. Along with an awful lot of parents.
Unbelievable. BTW - the principal referred all inquiries to the Transportation Dept of the school district, which referred the inquiries to the superintendent (Lois Capobianco), who "did not return calls".
Talk about passing the buck.
Kris
[email protected]
edit - thanks, James.
edit to try to add the url - if it's too long, I'm taking it out!
[ edited by MaddieNicks on Apr 22, 2001 05:16 PM ]
[ edited by MaddieNicks on Apr 22, 2001 06:16 PM ]
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jameSOBlivion
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:19:14 PM
[*http://www.nj.com/njcommunities/ledger/somerset/index.ssf?/njcommunities/ledger/somerset/12f9fa2.html]click here[/*url]
Without the asterisks is:
click here
[ edited by jameSOBlivion on Apr 22, 2001 05:20 PM ]
Well I screwed that one up. it was fine before the first edit, damnit.
[ edited by jameSOBlivion on Apr 22, 2001 06:20 PM ]
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krs
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:34:05 PM
[http://www.nj.com/njcommunities/ledger/somerset/index.ssf?/njcommunities/ledger/somerset/12f9fa2.html]bite this[/url]
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krs
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:34:56 PM
doesn't work, James.
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stockticker
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posted on April 22, 2001 05:45:42 PM
I figured it out:
(url=http://www.nj.com/njcommunities/ledger/somerset/index.ssf?/njcommunities/ledger/somerset/12f9fa2.html)testing(/url)
Replace brackets shown above with square brackets.
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MaddieNicks
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posted on April 22, 2001 06:17:49 PM
And thank you all for your support! LOL!
Kris
[email protected]
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krs
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posted on April 22, 2001 09:12:41 PM
testy
Izzat right, Irene?
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stockticker
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posted on April 22, 2001 10:48:00 PM
Right! Right! Right!
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