uaru
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posted on June 24, 2001 08:33:18 PM new
 Looking through the news tonight I saw an article called "Is Michael Jackson Still Marketable?" I don't know if he's marketable but I'd think it wouldn't be hard for him to successfully sue his doctors for making him look like something out of a science-fiction movie if he needs any money. Is it just me or does he need a better exterior decorator? It's one thing not to have looks, but to pay to look like botched experiment just isn't right.
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caravaggio
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posted on June 24, 2001 09:09:03 PM new
He is looking more and more like Latoya! Remember those rumors going around that he and Janet were the same person? I can't even see any similarity!
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Linda_K
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posted on June 25, 2001 05:50:24 AM new
He can change his exterior as many times as he wants, but he still has to live with (deal with) the demons inside. It's sad, to me, that someone with such talent can't find inner peace and accept themselves as they are.
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moonmem-07
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posted on June 25, 2001 12:29:41 PM new
I have always thought he looked like LaToya not Janet.
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uaru
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posted on June 25, 2001 12:37:28 PM new
I've seen photographs of mannequins that looked more life-like than photos of Michael Jackson. Should a doctor be exempt from good judgement just because his patient is failing to exercise it?
In contrast Barbara Striesand is one I always thought desperately needed a nose job. I found new respect for her when I learned her reason she didn't do that. It would alter her voice.
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spazmodeus
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posted on June 25, 2001 01:37:26 PM new
He resembles The Joker in the photo above.
There's something morbidly fascinating about people who go overboard with cosmetic surgery. The other one who comes to mind is Jocelyn Wildenstein, the rich New Yorker whose plastic surgeries have given her a leonine appearance, not altogether unlike the makeup Ron Perlman used to wear for his role of Vincent in Beauty and the Beast.
"Paging Dr. Moreau, paging Dr. Moreau ..."
Here's the story of how Jocelyne Wildenstein came to own the face she has today. It reads like the plot of a scary movie:
http://home2.planetinternet.be/verjans/Society_Divas/jocelyne_wildenstein_a.htm
Here's an interesting article about plastic surgery, Michael Jackson and Jocelyne Wildenstein:
http://www.salon.com/col/wils/1998/01/27wils.html
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MrsSantaClaus
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posted on June 25, 2001 01:48:29 PM new
His current look is the result of far too much cosmetic surgery. With all his money he has destroyed his looks.
As for his inside, that ugly is to the bone. Pedophiles disgust me!
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uaru
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posted on June 25, 2001 01:49:08 PM new
"Paging Dr. Moreau, paging Dr. Moreau ..."
LMAO!!! Yeah, I can visualize a plastic surgeon that looks like Charles Laughton smiling at the results of the operation.
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 25, 2001 02:06:46 PM new
While it's true that he was never exonerated the accusation was never proven or even pursued either. That the accuser's family thought it worth money to make the whole thing go away and let him walk the streets is suspicious to say the least. He certainly was a ripe candidate for a shakedown. I'm not sure that Michael Jackson isn't guilty of anything more then poor judgement and naivete in allowing himself to be in situations that could lead to charges like that, the same way a male doctor who examines a female patient would be foolish not to have a nurse present. While he is very weird, he's also known to be a very charitable, good and humble person in other areas so I feel he deserves the benefit of the doubt with things being so sketchy. I think of him as a tragic figure in many ways.
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zoomin
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posted on June 25, 2001 02:09:46 PM new
Thanks for the links, Spaz.
You now owe me a new keyboard (mine is drenched in coffee)
At risk of appearing cold & heartless, I am going public...
Michael was dancing in his whippy-snappy military trademark style, and during a quick toss of the head, his nose actually FLEW OFF. It was recovered by a prop guy
ROFLMAO!!!
PIMP!!!
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spazmodeus
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posted on June 25, 2001 02:27:09 PM new
james,
No matter where one stands on the question of Michael Jackson's innocence or guilt, one of the most bizarre moments in television history was that day all the networks and newsstations preempted regular programming to bring the world a message from Michael, beamed straight from Neverland Ranch, in which he informed all of mankind that his penis and other parts had been examined by the police.
Think about it now, years later, removed from the heated media context in which that broadcast was made, and you just have to shake your head in disbelief that it ever happened.
I don't think we'll ever see anything quite like that again.
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spazmodeus
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posted on June 25, 2001 02:29:36 PM new
uaru,
I'm glad somebody caught the Moreau reference, LOL.
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 25, 2001 02:32:23 PM new
I remember that but I was only about 16 so I didn't grasp the cultural import and signifigance completely at the time. I get it now. You can always count on Michael Jackson to make history. 
There are phototgraphs too, Spaz. 
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spazmodeus
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posted on June 25, 2001 02:57:36 PM new
I think of him as a tragic figure in many ways.
I think some of his problems are his own doing. But I have to agree, there is an element of tragedy, particulary with regard to his obsession with his appearance. I remember a lot of people criticized him when he was undergoing procedure after procedure, saying he was trying to become white, that he was turning his back on his black heritage. But I never got the impression it was a racial thing. I don't think he was pursuing a "white" look or rejecting the "black" look. I think he became obsessed with wanting to be beautiful; it just so happened that his personal concept of beauty included what many think of as Caucasian features.
In any event, it seems his compulsions got the better of him.
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caravaggio
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posted on June 25, 2001 02:58:43 PM new
Speaking of plastic surgey, how whacked is that woman who has spent tons of money to alter her body and face to look like Barbie?
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spazmodeus
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posted on June 25, 2001 03:36:21 PM new
Is it whacked if it makes you happy?
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Femme
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posted on June 25, 2001 04:11:07 PM new
I am in agreement with JamesO's 2:06 post regarding the accusations by the boy and his family.
I'm inclined to describe MJ as eccentric, not unlike Howard Hughes. Whatever one calls it, it is very sad to see.
However, I prefer to focus on how much pleasure he gave me with his talent.
Having one daughter born in 1965 and the other in 1972, I was very much aware of the popular music of the 70's and 80's. Michael Jackson was one of my favorites. So much so, that I bought all of his albums and several videos for my collection.
(In case you're curious...heck, even if your not , Billy Idol was another whose music I
bought.)
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spazmodeus
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posted on June 25, 2001 04:29:06 PM new
Femme,
It's rare that I go out in my car without at least once blasting Billy Idol's "Rebel Yell," LOL.
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gaffan
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posted on June 25, 2001 04:36:41 PM new
Belatedly seconding the LMAO at the Dr. Moreau reference.
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Femme
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posted on June 25, 2001 04:44:42 PM new
Spaz,
Is Billy Idol still around? I haven't heard anything about him in a long time.
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gravid
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posted on June 25, 2001 06:04:00 PM new
Many years ago when he was a teenager I meet Michael when his family was doing a show here in Michigan. He was so painfully shy he could barely force himself to take your hand and would not look you in the eye. His mother seemed down to earth and normal but the impression I got was that the kids were driven hard to produce big bucks - probably by the Dad who I did not get to meet since the Mother did not seem that way at all.
I think how most of these child stars are pushed is a form of child abuse most of the time. I think very few of them have a real choice or actually want that sort of life of before the parents seek it.
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spazmodeus
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posted on June 25, 2001 06:06:57 PM new
Femme,
Idol was on Leno a few weeks ago doing what amounted to a Muzak version of "White Wedding." He has a new greatest hits album coming out. Says he doesn't remember most of the '80s.
gaffan,
Let me return the courtesy and LOL at the occasional image you conjure of someone pounding his tiny fists. Cracks me up every time I see it.
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bobbi355
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posted on June 25, 2001 06:08:34 PM new
Is it whacked if it makes you happy?
That statement really made me think spaz. Who can say what "normal" is anyway?
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MrsSantaClaus
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posted on June 25, 2001 06:27:37 PM new
Sorry, all, but from what I read as I followed the stories he falls into that category. Either that, or normal grown men sleep with little boys all the time ....
I think he bought his way out of the mess.
Picture it this way: Mega - pop star tours the world. He has more money than he knows what to do with. He has beautiful women (and probably men) throwing themselves at him, offering him whatever he wants.
"Sorry, folks - Joey, Billy and I are going to bed now."
If he were merely Michael Jackson from Spokane, Washington his butt would be rotting in jail now! (Sorry, Spokane ... no offense meant!)
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bobbi355
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posted on June 25, 2001 06:31:01 PM new
Sorry, all, but from what I read as I followed the stories he falls into that category. Either that, or normal grown men sleep with little boys all the time
yikes ...... I forgot all about that
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caravaggio
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posted on June 25, 2001 06:44:41 PM new
There was just a VH1 behind the music on about Billy Idol a few weeks ago.
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uaru
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posted on June 25, 2001 06:57:12 PM new
I think he bought his way out of the mess
The reported $15 million (some reports are higher) paid to keep the kid quiet wasn't an admission of guilt. 
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jamesoblivion
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posted on June 25, 2001 07:08:42 PM new
This may be a bold statement, but I think any parent who will accept money to make charges against their son's molester disappear is a child abuser themselves.
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zoomin
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posted on June 25, 2001 07:49:43 PM new
Yes, Jameso, a bold statement, but right on the money.
(no pun intended)
To take cash in exchange of pressing charges on a child molester??
Worse yet, the molester to whom your child was a victim?
I hope to God it was all a ploy to go after the bucks.
Yet, that is still child abuse.
IMO.
(got kinda bold there myself  )
oops
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uaru
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posted on June 25, 2001 07:57:56 PM new
This may be a bold statement...
You're probably right James. I doubt many parents could be bought off for a few hundred, but a few million makes the decision a tough one. I think many of us would sell our souls for the right price. Economics can affect our morals.
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