ginger12
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posted on September 14, 2000 03:29:12 PM
I normally deal in old paper items, specifically magazines. In your opinion, what is a more valuable copy of the same issue:
One where the cover (sought after cover) has less flaws, but the mag has some little tears and wear.
OR
the same mag with fading on the cover, but the rest of the mag is more solid.
I know this is hair splitting, but when dealing with more valuable collectibles, this stuff does matter to the collector.
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magazine_guy
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posted on September 14, 2000 03:53:57 PM
I don't think anyone could give you a definitive answer to that without seeing the magazines. In general, the cover is more important than interior pages- so a defect on the cover would be of more concern than a defect in the interior. And some minor fading to the whole cover is not seen as a major defect.
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ginger12
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posted on September 14, 2000 04:31:01 PM
Magazine_Guy:
The 2 I was talking about:
A.) Has a faded cover, mostly on the left side, BUT the rest of the issue is in pretty good shape.
B.) This one has a more solid looking cover, BUT there are a couple of little tears around (one at spine top and one on back cover.
Whaddaya think?
[ edited by ginger12 on Sep 22, 2000 03:26 PM ]
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simco
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posted on September 14, 2000 05:34:15 PM
ginger12
It has been my experience that the cover is what sells the magazine. In fact, if I have a magazine with a bad cover I take it apart and sell the ads individually. I would say the more valuable one has the best cover.
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davismw
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posted on September 14, 2000 11:03:18 PM
Depends on the magazine and what the perceived collectibility is based on. I have sold both TV Guides and Sports Illustrated in the past and the cover is definately the most important thing although I have sold them based on an interior article as well. If the collectibility of the magazine is based on personalities (Sports Illustrated, TV Guide) then the cover is definitely important. If it is based on information or articles (Hobbyist magazines) then the interior condition would prevail.
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hamburgler
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posted on September 16, 2000 06:07:15 AM
If the mag has a celebrity or collectible on it etc the cover is very important as buyers frame them and hange on the walls. On the other hand some collect certain clebrities articles pictures content etc and they would be interested in everything that the mag has on that celeb or whatever. When listing make sure picture is clear and show problems and describe in detail...that way they will know if the magazine is for them.
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magazine_guy
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posted on September 16, 2000 10:59:06 AM
Ginger:
I'm not sure what issue you're trying to decide. If you're planning on selling both, just describe them both fully and let the market decide. (wait a few weeks between listings).
If you're trying which to keep for a personal collection, and which to sell, I'd keep the one with the better cover.
Steve
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hopefulli
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posted on September 16, 2000 11:37:21 AM
Forgive what may be a stupid question, but is it possible to switch the good cover to the magazine with the better "insides"? Not suggesting any subterfuge, just curious how collectors would view this.
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ginger12
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posted on September 16, 2000 11:57:33 AM
Thanks Steve.
hopefulli:
Exchanging covers would entail undoing the staples. Old staples can crumble if rusty OR staple holes may not be similar issue to issue, which means the holes in the cover may not match the holes in the rest of the issue you switched with.
Also, taking apart old paper items compromises their structure, or weakens it, you could say.
[ edited by ginger12 on Sep 16, 2000 11:58 AM ]
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hopefulli
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posted on September 16, 2000 12:36:44 PM
Thanks Ginger.
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Model_Citizen
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posted on September 16, 2000 01:10:57 PM
if I have a magazine with a bad cover I take it apart and sell the ads individually. I would say the more valuable one has the best cover.
Then isn't the more valuable one the one with the bad cover? 
I regularly sell car ads from old magazines. I've made better than $20 for an old National Geographic Magazine. I find that the buyers are either the owner of the same old car, or someone collecting ads for a specific make or model of car. Yes, I have some framed on my hobby room walls too.
Funny thing though... I still only cut up damaged magazines! I guess I have too much respect for things old. I've sold nice copies of mags for $5 that I could have gotten much more for the ads!
Tom in NJ "I won't rest until all the junk in America has been shipped to a good home"
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simco
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posted on September 16, 2000 03:57:44 PM
Model_Citizen
Good point! The most collectable would be the good cover, and based on ads the most valuable the other. Depends on the personality on the cover, also.
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Fez
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posted on September 22, 2000 02:23:04 PM
Who collects TV Guides other than George Constanza's father on Seinfeld? I don't know what would be more stupid, selling them or buying them.
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ginger12
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posted on September 22, 2000 02:58:36 PM
FEZ:
Your ignorance is truly showing.
FIrstly, you can't start criticizing what Ebay users sell or collect, because collectors and collections are the lifeblood of Ebay.
Secondly, you obviously haven't the slightest idea how much $$$ these things can go for.
Thirdly, in this age of Pokemon and Beanies, I am surprised you don't understand the reasonable and rational interest in a magazine that has reflected this culture on a weekly basis for the past 50 years
Finally, Lord only knows what you collect.
The Emporer and FEZ have no clothes.
[ edited by ginger12 on Sep 22, 2000 02:59 PM ]
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Fez
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posted on September 22, 2000 03:20:41 PM
The word is "emperor". Maybe you should get out your paper dictionary and use it.
[ edited by Fez on Sep 22, 2000 03:21 PM ]
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ginger12
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posted on September 22, 2000 03:24:11 PM
If anyone ever wonders why "FEZ" is such a lonely douchebag, just bring up AW and read his profound posts and criticisms.
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joice
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posted on September 22, 2000 03:28:41 PM
ginger12,
You were already on a formal warning before you insulted another user by calling them "a lonely douchebag".
Your posting privileges have been suspended. If you wish to appeal this suspension, please email [email protected] .
Joice
Moderator.
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Muriel
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posted on September 22, 2000 03:40:15 PM
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capotasto
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posted on September 22, 2000 04:16:57 PM
Ginger12... you have got to stop using the word "lonely" !!!
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paulstar
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posted on September 23, 2000 10:16:47 AM
Methinks Fez has a small penis and is trying to make up for it with false bravado and bullying.
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joice
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posted on September 23, 2000 10:32:04 AM
paulstar,
Your comment about the penis size of another poster is not appropriate and certainly does not fall within the standards of basic etiquette. Please stick with the topic at hand and avoid comments about posters.
Continuing to post in this vein will jeopardize your posting privileges.
Joice
Moderator.
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Meya
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posted on September 23, 2000 10:37:25 AM
Thanks folks...I now have cookie crumbs all over my portable keyboard.
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stockticker
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posted on September 23, 2000 11:10:53 AM
There is nothing stupid about selling items that make money or collecting items which give pleasure. Saying it's stupid is just silly. Why get so defensive, posters? Just consider the source.
Irene
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Muriel
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posted on September 23, 2000 11:12:37 AM
Well, if you will check my thread about getting my blue star, you'll see that I'm not shedding any tears over Ginger12's suspension. 
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PaperMemories
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posted on September 23, 2000 01:04:12 PM
Our specialty is in magazines with covers by the Great American Illustrators, especially those by Norman Rockwell. We have been involved with them for over 30 years.
I can state without question, when it concerns the Illustrators, there is no question that the cover is the main thing of importance. Given a choice where the cover is in good condition, and the magazine has some flaws, against the same date magazine with a faded cover but the rest is perfect, the collector will always choose the former.
I am one that prefers to keep the magazine intact if at all possible. However, faced with a good cover and a severly damaged magazine, I too will remove the cover. If the damage to the magazine is slight, I will leave it alone.
Should the cover be damaged, then you might as well part the magazine. It will gain no greater price leaving it intact.
I would think that this would be true with most magazines other than those with Illustrated covers. The exceptions are possibly TV Guides, and some others where the collector is looking for the intact magazine.
Hope this helps.
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