AnnieJean
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posted on October 18, 2000 05:45:00 PM
Why do you stay with eBay?
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preacher4u
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posted on October 18, 2000 05:49:20 PM
For me , there's no other real choice.
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Many miles away, there's a shadow on the door of a cottage on the shore of a dark Scottish lake.
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/preacher4u/
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VeryModern
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posted on October 18, 2000 05:52:53 PM
I did not but want to hear what others say and so turning on email.
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AnnieJean
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posted on October 18, 2000 05:54:00 PM
preacher4u: I really find that hard to believe. There are several excellent sites out there that are rolling out the red carpet for sellers.
I am a buyer. I have hardly bought a thing on eBay for the last six months. I continue to track auctions there mainly for comparison purposes.
90% of the things I have bought have been from sites other than the infamous "non-functionality" site!
I really find it difficult to understand why sellers put up with the way eBay is treating them. Mass madness is about the only reason that makes sense to me.
I am not trolling here on this post. I really have a hard time understanding why sellers keep putting up with eBay's treatment of them.
Is it because they keep hoping that things will get better? Is it because they really believe that eBay is truly working harder to make the site a better place to do business - hence the outage for all the improvements they are making? Is it because they are afraid to try something else? Or is it because, after all is said and done, eBay isn't such a bad place after-all?
[ edited by AnnieJean on Oct 18, 2000 05:58 PM ]
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mauimoods
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posted on October 18, 2000 05:55:06 PM
If someone could tell me where my stuff would get bids, where there are bidders, I would take the whole shebang there. Again, I cant get in ebay and sales end in about an hour. All last week and this week this has been happening. Enough is enough. I gotta make a living and it isnt happening at ebay anymore. Cant sell if bidders cant get in, or I cant go see who won. Yahoo has some of my stuff, but I never get any bids there. Exposure, yes...but bids? No. Any suggestions of WHERE there are bidders? For ladies apparel?
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pumpkinhead
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posted on October 18, 2000 05:55:55 PM
Hi, not a poster, usually just a lurker. But I came over here since I cant get into ebay and thought I would read the posts.
Anyway, I stay with ebay for one reason. It allows me to no longer work 45 hours a week away from home. I now work approx 20 hours and supplement my income thanks to ebay! I now enjoy my free time with my kids. I love it.
That is the only reason...Otherwise, I probably would have moved on to something else by now, as I tend to get bored with things after a while...
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rawbunzel
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posted on October 18, 2000 05:56:51 PM
My things do not sell anywhere else.
They aren't selling on ebay either with all the down time.
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amy
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posted on October 18, 2000 05:57:17 PM
The buyers are here..not at the other sites.
I don't want red carpets..just lots of buyers. Ebay delivers buyers for the type of merchandise I sell.
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ShellyHerr
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:00:06 PM
Where are these other bidders at other sites, what site?
Seems ebay is a household name, everyone bids mainly ebay, I don't like saying that. I would go somewhere else, IF there was a place you could get the bids like here.
Yeah its down and down a lot but its the only site I've been able to get bids, and sometimes good ones. I've tried Yahoo, Golds and Amazon, didn't do good; just ok at yahoo, nada at Golds, and good at Amazon when they first opened a long time ago.
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pnth
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:01:53 PM
If you wanted to start a wal-mart franchise, where would you go?
A) The Everglades: Beautiful land, lots of animals, and great fishing.
B) Smack downtown in the Middle Class burgeoning suburb, filled with lots of people and no shops???
I dunno......seems like a waste of time to me to run shop in the everglades....
Just my tuppence worth 
pnth IS my name on ebay.
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mauimoods
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:02:17 PM
I think I will just take a week off...list a few things at yahoo, and wait til ebay gets it bugs out. What everyone is saying is true...the bidders are at ebay. Thats why I stay there. But its frustrating that there is so much down time. If they would just extend the auctions, then I think everyone would be satisfied. They arent, and thats what is ticking everyone off.
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AnnieJean
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:04:20 PM
Have any of you really give another site a chance? Do you list any of your items there. Do you stick with the other site for more than one trial run? Did any of you support the Million Auction March?
Buyers follow sellers, not the other way around.
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danstang
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:04:22 PM
Annie Jean,
Would you care to tell us sellers who are "trapped" where we shpuld list our wares? Where do you buy?? I am sure we are all curious to know! Sites names would be a good start! I have a few I get good results on as well..
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calley1
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:04:47 PM
I'm in the process of putting some stuff on Yahoo. Unfortunately, there's almost no traffic there.
I hope more sellers will be following me there!
I wish I could abandon Ebay entirely!!!!!!!!
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mauimoods
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:06:27 PM
Ebay is back up...barely.
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Shoshanah
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:10:21 PM
Tha only site where there is more than a small handful of real Antiques...from mid-range to very high-end.
The only place where I can sell them...Have tried a number of them...
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Shosh
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/rifkah/
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AnnieJean
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:12:12 PM
I buy mainly on Gold's, eDeal and Yahoo, in that order.
I really feel for the sellers who are trapped on eBay. I think a lot of the griping that goes on here on AW about eBay is legitimate and heartfelt by sellers who are being used and abused by the powers that be at eBay.
I don't have an easy answer, either. However, as I've said before in another post here on AW, if you keep doing what your doing then you're going to keep getting what you're getting.
And from eBay, that amounts to both sales from wonderful customers who continue to support the site and have never experienced life on eBay as a seller, and slaps in the head from eBay management who no longer seem to need or want the small time sellers.
To me, the writing has been on the wall on eBay for a long time. If the seller's don't make a serious effort to take their business elsewhere, then in my opinion they don't have too many grounds for their complaints. It's the sellers, NOT the buyers, who are lining eBay's pockets!
[ edited by AnnieJean on Oct 18, 2000 06:20 PM ]
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mauimoods
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:17:03 PM
I have listed on Golds...back when ebay did the dollar thing with reserves. No bids. Yes, as a buyer, I would go there too...no competition of getting outbid! Being a seller, I want people to outbid each other and at Golds, it just isnt going to happen...not with what I sell, anyway.
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Shoshanah
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:21:27 PM
AnnieJean...you are mistaking "Having found one's niche" with "being trapped"...not al all the same. Different merchandise do better on some sites than on others. I have tried to cut the nose to spite the face...but quikly picked up my nose from the gutter and glued it back on.. We all know where our mortgage money is coming from...Ask 500 users, and you'll get 5003 answers... For you, it's yahoo...Great...for Ebayers, it is obviousl....ebaY
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Shosh
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/rifkah/
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amy
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:24:53 PM
Personally, I don't feel trapped. I also don't feel any slaps from ebay management.
At this point I am satisfied with what I get from ebay.
And no, I did not support MAM...there was no reason for me to support it. Others felt differently...I respect their right to see it in a different light.
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AnnieJean
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:25:58 PM
Shosh and Maui, and all the rest of you who have replied to this post - I hear you.
But what I hear is - despite the outages, despite the treatment of sellers, despite the glitches and all the other fooforah that goes on, after all is said and done, eBay is not all that bad a place to do business.
And I guess that's why everyone stays, so I will consider my original question 'answered.'
[ edited by AnnieJean on Oct 18, 2000 06:33 PM ]
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ShellyHerr
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:29:03 PM
I would buy at Golds too, not that many bidders, sure, I would buy there.
I stuck with Yahoo for a good time.
I stuck with Amazon only in the beginning, for a good time, enough time to get me 20 feedback (do they still have fb there? its been a long time) and I think I have about 10 at yahoo but sold more than that, it was just there wasn't enough bids or bidders.
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mauimoods
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:29:43 PM
AnnieJean...I have to stay where the money is. And although ebay is down all the time recently, it doesnt make sense to move somewhere else when nobody is there to bid on it. So no, ebay is not a bad place. I just wish they would extend auctions when they go down when sales are ending. Thats it. Nothing special...just extend them to make up for the down time. They wont, but I can keep wishing, eh?
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mzalez
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:37:31 PM
AnnieJean, because you mentioned it, I went and looked at the categories of Golds where I would list...and went through pages and pages and pages without seeing a single bid. How come?
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AnnieJean
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:39:02 PM
Maui: I would think that indeed extending auctions that closed during an outage is the least they could do.
It would certainly put more money in their pockets to have the last minute snipers 'upping the anti' and it would certain go a long way to providing good will for the sellers.
I'm signing off now, so thanks to all who replied to this post.
mzalez: Just noticed your post. The reason there are no bidders at Gold's is because they are at eBay. They are at eBay because the sellers are at eBay. The sellers are at eBay because the bidders are eBay. And until eBay sellers decide that enough is enough, then I guess that is just the way things will continue to be.
[ edited by AnnieJean on Oct 18, 2000 06:44 PM ]
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mauimoods
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:39:46 PM
mzalez...nobody is there, thats why. As a bidder, i would have a field day sniping stuff because there are no people there to outbid me....but as a seller...I dont know how they do it, myself. Why work so hard to list things and have NO buyers? That was my experience anyway.
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mauimoods
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:40:52 PM
Goodnight Anniejean
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AnnieJean
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posted on October 18, 2000 06:47:44 PM
G'Night Maui! Think I'll go and soak my head in an ice bucket. (After I take a cruise through at least one other auction site that just might happen to be functionating at the moment )
[ edited by AnnieJean on Oct 18, 2000 06:55 PM ]
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imabrit
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posted on October 18, 2000 07:10:38 PM
AnnieJean and others.
When I first started selling on auctions on the internet back in 97.I listed on other sites other than ebaY.Over the years most of those sites have gone out of business.
Others like Amazon when it first opened I did great for about 6 months then things changed and have been dead since.I do try them from time to time and still I find them dead.
Yahoo has been the same way for me also.But ebaY is a different story.Doing this full time I need to go where the bidders are and they are at ebaY.
Even with the problems last night in fact all this week I still managed to do over 2000 in sales and its only Wednesday.
I cannot do that in a month on the other sites lucky if I can do it within 5 months.
If there was a viable alternative I would be there right know.There maybe some for others but not me.If you just want to sell a few things then the others are fine for you.
But if you want to sell lots of items ebaY is it.
You would have thought by know that such would emerge.I have high hopes for Yahoo but it seems long in coming.
I have at least a dozen maybe more auction sites bookmarked I check them every few weeks and still see the same thing very little bidding.
The site can offer the greatest deals for sellers in the world.Even be free but that does no good if there are no buyers.
Like giving away a free flashlight but there are no batteries in the country for it.So what good is it other than its free.
So at this point there is not much choice other than too just hang in there and hope it all works out in the end.
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cmsspu
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posted on October 18, 2000 07:15:04 PM
Beside ebay being down alot latey, They are losing sellers every day!. It seem the insert fees weren't enought! Now with the final fee added in it's getting harder to make a profit. Then Paypal jump in with their fees. Soon to come E-tax fees for each state. When sellers insert their Ads on ebay this will be build in at insert!. Also there's a growing number of Non-Payers, I would say about 1 out-of-every 22 buyers. My first count 6 months ago was 1 out-of-every 190 buyers! Ebay may it to easy for deadbeats. I email them with this, When a buyer does not paid their winning bid, they are charge a $1.00 fee that goes back to the seller for his/her time! Comments welcome!
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