posted on November 29, 2000 04:00:15 PM new
Well, I am pretty sure that I can, but someone is giving me a hard time. Got a bad check from an ebayer, I had not posted feedback for her, or mailed her item when I got it back. Has a feedback profile of 17, 1 negative so far.
I have been contacted by sellers when they wanted to know about a buyer. I contacted a few sellers this evening about this buyer, all were friendly and helped me out, except one. He turned me in to ebay for doing a "sneak check" on this buyer. He then emailed me back and told me that what I was doing was "libelous". How is contacting other sellers, of ended auctions, and asking them a few simple questions and stating what happened to me libelous? I have her bounced check sitting right here. I have had other ebayers email me in the past about specific users and have asked ebay about this, no problems until now. What do you think?
posted on November 29, 2000 04:13:03 PM new
I am sorry, but I think your judgement could have been better.
You only had cause to contact the person who sent the check and ask them to make good. You have a bad check in your hand, what good can a seller from last week or last month do you?
If you want to warn other sellers - that is what feedback is for. I have had two bad checks in thousands of deals, both made good by buyers who were nothing less than mortified.
To me this is akin to knocking on neighbor's doors at the dinner hour to spread ill about a person when you don't have all the info.
This opinion is mine, and I am gal who has never bounced a check in my life.
posted on November 29, 2000 04:23:35 PM new
I think I have all the info I need, the stories that she is passing around are ridiculous, 10 of them at last count. I have countacted the buyer, numerous times in fact. The last time I received a bad check, I had untold emails from other sellers asking me about the buyer and how I was progressing on retrieving the money, how is this any different? Judging from the negative she already has and some of the emails I have received, I am SOL. I will work with anyone, but when they flat out lie to me and everyone else, I have a serious problem with that.
posted on November 29, 2000 04:30:12 PM new
I just feel differently. If someone bounces a check, I ask them to make it good. So far they have. If they did not replace the check I would leave feedback - "BOUNCED CHECK - Did not make good" and that would be that.
My ex husband did have someone steal 200 checks from the mailbox one time and they wrote them all in 2 days, so roughly 190 of them bounced. One merchant showed up at our house intending to kill him.
This is how he found out the checks were missing in the first place!
See.
You never know.
Edit to add:
and you never know when it will be YOU, so treat people the way you would like to be treated. Mailing around behind someone's back is disrespectful.
[ edited by VeryModern on Nov 29, 2000 04:33 PM ]
posted on November 29, 2000 04:34:43 PM new
contact of ebayers other than those with whom you are directly dealing is considered spamming and is against ebay rules. if this was by e-mail it is bad enough. if you get contact info and phone other parties you could be naru'd. having said this, many do it without a problem(e-mail that is). you should resist the temptation to do this in the future. there is nothing libelous about discussing a factual event unless you make derogatory comments about the person's character and in most cases they would have to be shown to have caused a hardship.
posted on November 29, 2000 04:41:55 PM new
I would never request other sellers contact info and call them. I stated the facts and asked them to contact me if they also had a problem, and this hardly qualifies as spamming. If it had not been for the sellers who contacted me about the last buyer who did this to me, I would never have known what kind of recourse I had. People are sitting over there on ExecutiveGirls thread telling her to contact other sellers, I don't see you being the morals judge on that one VeryModern.
posted on November 29, 2000 05:09:10 PM new
And I am supposed to be friendly after you have called my judgement into question, along with calling me disrespectful? I am not spreading ill will among all ebay users, I emailed 5 people and asked them a few questions, all were very helpful and friendly except one. This woman told me that her her direct deposit was "screwed up" and she was out of town with her sick mother and did not know all of her checks were bouncing. Now, several sellers, at least 5 posted in her feedback, received payment today and item mailed today or something to that effect. She has got a lot of feedback the last two weeks. My reasoning may be off here, but don't you think that if her direct deposit was really lost and all her checks bounced that I am not the only one who got one, and that sellers who posted feedback already and mailed her item are going to be getting bounced checks also?
posted on November 29, 2000 05:52:14 PM new
I dont believe there is no real set rule that say what you did is wrong or write really at all.
Usually thought you check with a buyer referances before accepting there check or giveing credit because after the fact is to late really.
sorry you are haveing this problem if you cant get no where contacting the buyer you might want to concider takeing this up with www.madagency.com this is a collection agency that will not only attemp to get buyers to make good on bad checks but they will also go after deadbeats on your auctions. even if this check may or sales isn't worth collections might be worth checking out and book marking for the day there is a biger sale gone bad
posted on November 29, 2000 06:34:49 PM new
She may be telling a big story but did you give her enough time to respond and make good ? I have never had a bad check in 2 years that was not made good but I let everyone know and gave them time to handle it. A few of them took a week or so to respond. I would rather have the money than act too quick and alienate them. If it was a problem and not a scam now you have lost a customer and probably picked up an unneeded neg. If it is crooked dealing you don't lose any ability to collect by waiting a week.
posted on November 29, 2000 06:45:47 PM new
I don't really care if I have lost her business or not, she will be naru'd pretty quickly anyway. Here is a rundown of excuses that she has given me and others:
1. Her son had emergency dental surgery, and she is broke.
2. She was out of town
3. Her computer got a virus and she lost everything, including all payment information.
4. Her mother was very ill.
5. Her company screwed up everyone's direct deposits and they were not paid.
6. Her bank did not receive her deposit and bounced all of her checks.
Now, during all of this, she still managed to bid. All she had to tell me was she had some problems and at this time would not be able to afford to pay for the items and to either hold them or relist them. I very rarely leave negatives for anyone, I realize that things do happen, they have happened to me. I would never have been able to put together all the lies and misinformation had it not been for the other sellers who helped me. If I get a negative, I can live with it, this one I would not mind at all. She has had plenty of time to get back with me, if she can get on the internet to bid, she can certainly email me.
