ehansen
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posted on April 12, 2001 08:30:45 AM new
I got my first neg today, after 223 positives after I laid a neg on him for not paying for an item nearly 2 months after the auction closed. I was promised payment several times but never received it. The neg he left me "Didn't answer email to confirm that I was sending payment." is leaving me hostile. Is a seller supposed to confirm that that the buyer is sending payment? Ridiculous. I send a post aucion email that has worked just fine for all of my transactions and maintain very good contact with my buyers and so far, everything has gone ultra smooth. My TOS states that "This item will be held in the Winning bidders name for 14 days after the end of auction, pending payment".
The buyer had 0 positive fb and 1 neg, now has 2 negs.
I felt like I was being strung along with this buyer and wanted my FVF back before it was too late. After looking over ebay's rules about removing feedback, it looks I'm going to have to swallow it.
There's just no feeling in the world quite like having someone jerk you around and getting away with it
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Pocono
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posted on April 12, 2001 08:35:45 AM new
ehanson: that does it. I will NOT be buying from you since you now have a negative...LOL
Beleive it or not, the stress factor goes down now.
Worrying about the first one sucks, but each additional one will make you a lot less stressed.
It's really no biggie....really.
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computerboy
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posted on April 12, 2001 08:40:11 AM new
Don't sweat the negative... You did the right thing.
It is obvious from the feedback messages that were left that the jerk didn't pay for his winning auction and was given the appropriate feedback. A BIG NEGATIVE!
What else is a jerk to do but retaliate? It futher reinforces his poor behaivor.
Your a good eBayer! And you took one on the shoulder for your fellow sellers by letting everyone know that if this jerk bids in an auction, there's a good chance he won't pay!
Treat the negative as a badge of honor and duty!
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shaani
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posted on April 12, 2001 08:44:47 AM new
I agree with Pocono when he says the stress level goes down. But that is after you get over the initial sting. It usually gets buried pretty fast also. You can respond factually to it. I don't think you will lose any bids because of it.
I only have one on my selling ID but even months later it still kind of ticks me off to see it there. I have a couple on my buying ID and they actually make me smile.
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Empires
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posted on April 12, 2001 08:45:10 AM new
Welcome to the "being negged club" it only hurts the first time.
Hello,
Thank you for writing to eBay notifying us about this situation.
Please understand that we do not suspend members based on
feedback
alone, although we will take it into consideration. We will
monitor
this account for violations of eBay policy, however.
Thank you for helping to keep eBay a fun and safe place to
trade.
Regards,
xxxxx
eBay SafeHarbor
Investigations Team
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mikeselis
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posted on April 12, 2001 09:57:30 AM new
I have made it a new policy of mine to not buy from people people with negs unless I check the other persons feedback to see both sides.
You should have only given a neutral as I did with someone who sent me payment 19 days after the auction ended and I had a rule that I needed payment to be in my hands within 10 days or I need an excuse before the 10 days. When payment arrived, I sent it back at my cost because I couldn't sell the item anymore (at least for as much money)as it was time sensitive (they were collectible phone cards that were about to expire in 3 weeks, and I was selling them with airtime still on them). I ended up selling them for about 1/3 of what they would have paid. I didn't want to get neged either. If you look at my feedback you will see that they are no longer a registered user because they never completed most of the items they won. It wasn't because they got too many negs, it was because their ratio became close to 2:1. Ebay never suspended them but after all of those warnings they probably buy under a new name and email...
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dubyasdaman
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posted on April 12, 2001 10:47:19 AM new
I have never left a neg for a deadbeat and I never will under the current feedback system.
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sugar2912
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posted on April 12, 2001 11:44:17 AM new
mikeselis, That's a good idea.. EXCEPT in my case, I left the appropriate neg to a deadbeat. He immediately retaliated. I responded, he responded back. He then made his feedback private. NOW he has "closed his account" with ebay and his feedback is completely removed. It now looks like I made up the part about it being retaliatory since his feedback file is completely wiped out!
I'm giving up on ebucks feedback system. It is abused far too often by the dishonest people, and so can't be relied upon by the honest ones!
ehansen, I'm sorry this happened to you, but take it from someone who also had an undeserved neg, it will sting for awhile but eventually you'll forget about it. (I'm still waiting to forget about mine! )
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ehansen
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posted on April 12, 2001 01:46:16 PM new
mikeselis:
Had the buyer actually come through with payment, I probably would have given him a positive or no feedback at all. . I don't neg because someone pays a bit later than promised and have only left one other neg for non-payment.
I went out to look for a motorcycle today to leave that neg in the dust. It does almost feel like a time bimb waiting for the first neg. I've read many posts about this and was patiently waiting for my turn Finally happened, now I'm patiently waiting for it go further into the stack of fb so it won't stick out like a sore thumb.
Thanks for all the responses
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overworked
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posted on April 12, 2001 02:51:36 PM new
Consider yourself a "seasoned" seller. Wipe it off your shoe, and move on.
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skip555
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posted on April 12, 2001 03:45:00 PM new
I think it is important that you place a response concerning the neg in you feedback file. If I see a neg on a sellers feedback i will usuallly read the neg and I am intersted in the response. I have not bid on items based on a few negs but where the person being negged left sarcastic or nasty remarks about the person negging them.
Simply state something like "this neg retalitory..nonpaying bidder". any resonable person will understand .
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BlondeSense
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posted on April 12, 2001 11:11:14 PM new
Like skip, I would recommend a very professional response to the feedback they left.
I buy a heck of a lot more than I sell. If a seller has a feedback rating in the hundreds with no negs, I figure that they are a wimp when it comes to NPBs. One or two negs that are obviously retalitory will not hurt your sales. Actually, If you show me in your response that you handle problems in a professional manner and don't respond with childish namecalling I am probably more likely to bid on your item than if you had spotless feedback.
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doormat
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posted on April 13, 2001 02:26:35 AM new
Amen!
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ehansen
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posted on April 13, 2001 02:46:20 AM new
I did respond to his neg with basically the same message I left when I gave him the negative, that the auction ended 2 months ago and bidder didn't send payment. That's not what my rattled brain wanted to say in the response though 
I can see that your point though, in that a seller with hundreds of positives and no negatives looks wither incredibly lucky or incredibly weak. I must admit that that when I buy, I seldom dig through pages and pages to spot the negs that a seller may have but if it's right there up front, the way the seller responds to it does influence my bidding.
Furher, the other negative this uy has is from a seller that I have dealt with frequently on his web site and have a high regard for him as a seller with integrity so his negative probably influenced me to leave a negative on the bidder where I might have left a neutral or no feedback at all. So much for guts Positive fb feels great and negative fb stinks. It's almost feels like a reflection on what type of person you are and when you get that neg, you feel like crap because somewhere, somebody thinks you're a jerk and wants the rest of the world to think that too. I seem to recall that kind of game in grade school The only difference is that in grade school, you set up a fight on Monday after detention
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indianajones47150
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posted on April 13, 2001 01:33:13 PM new
Does anyone know how long after an auction close feedback can be left? I got pos feedback almost 2 months after an auction close.
What happens if some decides months after an auction they dont like your item and flame you?
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shaani
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posted on April 13, 2001 01:40:30 PM new
A few days ago I traced back on auctions and I was able to bring up auctions from Jan 01 of this year. So I know that you can go back that far at least.
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