posted on May 13, 2001 12:08:27 PM
Can you give me an opinion on this item. I bought it about 25 years ago in an antique shop. It doesn't look very old to me because it's in perfect condition. I would like to sell it on eBay, but have no idea about it's age or value. The girls are salt & pepper shakers & I have no idea what the little pot in the middle is for.
Here are two pictures.
posted on May 13, 2001 12:17:16 PM
I believe this is a condiment set, the center pot is for mustard. If you do list it, be sure to include the keywords lustre or lusterware in the description. It's a very nice set!
Edited to add: I used to collect bird S&Ps and have several in this kind of "lusterware" finish. Please be sure to check them carefully. I have received more than one "mint condition" set only to find that the black or matte colored paints had been touched up.
[ edited by BlondeSense on May 13, 2001 12:23 PM ]
posted on May 13, 2001 12:56:34 PMThanks BlondeSense Didn't know it was lusterware & certainly didn't know the center piece was a mustard pot. I went over the entire piece with a glass & a black light, no repairs. It's in such perfect condition that I can't believe it's much older than 25 years, which I know because thats how long I've had it.
Isn't there something about whether a piece says Made in Japan or just Japan as to how old it might be.
posted on May 13, 2001 01:14:07 PM
Just to add my 2 cents, it's a To Die For lusterware complete condiment set, and another best keyword is DECO!! These Noritake sets go for BIG money! Congratulations! Sell it under Noritake -
posted on May 13, 2001 01:15:28 PM
Hi, in my kovel's marks book there is a mark just like this, except it was green in color. It was used in 1911. The factory is in nagoya japan, and was started in 1904. It still exists as of the the late 1980's. There is nothing in the book about this mark in the color you have. I don't know if that helps at all.
posted on May 13, 2001 02:16:18 PM
Hello,
Nice old Noritake! 1930's or earlier I'd say. You'll probably have to email Shoshana (through ebay), I hardly ever see her post here.
Mel
posted on May 13, 2001 02:19:12 PM
This set is GORGEOUS!
The Noritake mark is MM-19, which was created in 1918 and was in use (with modifications) until about 1941. Your set is so "deco" that I feel certain it a very early issue...probably late teens to early 1920s.
posted on May 13, 2001 02:47:54 PMsonsie So you really think it's that old, wonderful. It's so perfect I had my doubts. If you look at the girl on the left you will see a small white spot to the right of her face in the dark area of her hat. It looks like a tiny chip of paint is missing, but it also looks glazed over. What suprises me is that all the fired gold is intact & the original matching spoon is not broken or missing. I was in the cellar looking through old books & came across it. We moved here 13 years ago & left a lot of things packed. We have a lot of cats & two dogs so didn't bother to put any china & glassware out for obvious reasons. I was suprised to see it, had forgotten all about it.
Everyone has been such a help to me, thank you again.
Jane
[ edited by mcjane on May 13, 2001 02:50 PM ]
posted on May 13, 2001 05:07:31 PM
Jane, if the missing paint has been glazed over, then it's original to the piece and is not repaired damage. As far as I know, Noritake doesn't reissue old designs, and this certainly is OLD.
Just for fun, before you list this, search on "noritake condiment" and see what comes up. You will be most pleasantly surprised!
posted on May 13, 2001 06:18:50 PM
Yo!!!...Here I am....
Fabulous Art Deco NORITAKE. Lustre ware begun in Japan around 1910, but was most popular from 1920 to about 1935. This totally deco, to-dye for set should bring about 125.00/150.00....Noritake Deco is VERY HOT!...Congratulations!
This Noritake Mark with the "M"is on of the first ones to replace the former "M" in wreath with Nippon, which stopped in March 1921, whenthe word NIPPON became JAPAN to accommodate the US Customs system. In early 50's, the "M" (Morimura Brothers), was changed to "N" for Noritake, which is still in use today.
******** Gosh Shosh!
