caravaggio
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posted on June 14, 2001 10:46:56 AM new
I was over on the eBay message boards looking around and I spot a person with private FB and an About Me page. Since I know that you can sometimes find current feedback on the about me page, I looked and sure enough there it was in big red and bold lettering a bevy of complaints:
"Bidder refused to pay shipping STATED IN AUCTION! $1.95!!!! ",
"Check returned NSF three weeks after payment. No response to emails." ,
"Claimed item was damaged, refused to return item for insurance or refund." ,
"Bid on and won sexual related items, returned USED ITEM for refund 6 WEEKS LATER! This bidder is SCUM!" ,
"Failed to replace lost MO. Backed out of sell. Poor email. Caution is due" here.,
"BOUNCED CHECK!! Will not return emails, has me blocked on his email service.  "
Wouldn't you want to know that a bidder with FB this bad is bidding on your items? Does anyone think private FB is a good idea?
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on June 14, 2001 10:54:31 AM new
I personally think that private FB is never a good thing, and IMO think it should not even be allowed.
Private FB tells me a bidder is hiding something.
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gk4495
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posted on June 14, 2001 10:58:46 AM new
Private FB tells me a bidder is hiding something.
Or a seller. I mostly sell. Once in a while though I do buy. The only time I have been burned was by a seller with private feedback. Now it is a red flag for me. Buyer or seller, makes no difference. Private Feedback=hiding something.
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caravaggio
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posted on June 14, 2001 11:11:52 AM new
Private Feedback=hiding something
This person makes a good case for that. There were a couple odd things in the profile that didn't make sense, all of the people complaining have the exact same FB rating but they are all different users. What's up with that?
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orchardmike
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posted on June 14, 2001 11:26:47 AM new
I have an ID with "private" feedback profile, and it works for me. Most sellers' concerned about dealing with someone with "private" feedback can put their concerns to rest by clicking on "(private)" next to the user name, and the link will take them to the bidders' User Profile, and eBay ID Card. From that page, you can read the bidder's "feedback score" and the number of positives, neutrals, and negatives. Then make your decision on whether or not you want to deal with the person. No you won't be able to read the feedback comments which can (and sometimes do) contain identifying information left by 'well-meaning' sellers that don't take Internet privacy concerns as seriously as I do. If someone was really uptight about my feedback being private, I'd tell then not to worry, just send my purchase when you receive the money. I'd think that private feedback profiles for sellers isn't a real good idea.
edited to remove faulty UBB (I need a refresher course).
[ edited by orchardmike on Jun 14, 2001 11:29 AM ]
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mtnmama
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posted on June 14, 2001 11:34:02 AM new
Private feedback is never a good sign, for either bidder or seller.
all of the people complaining have the exact same FB rating but they are all different users.
Now that's something I would have to see for myself. A lot of the feedback posted in your first post sounds strange.
Mike no offense, but you can also write to the seller/bidder and ask them to open their file for you to read. That's what I would do. I always read feedback. Sometimes the remarks are just "sensitive" ones and don't count as real negatives against the person.
Boy would I love to see that person's feedback file. I didn't know the comments showed up anywhere once it was made private. That must be a glitch!
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orchardmike
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posted on June 14, 2001 11:47:18 AM new
mtnmama:
No offense taken, just offering one reason why a bidder would want to have their feedback profile private. Private=privacy.
The feedback on my selling ID is public, and I agree with everyone else posting that a seller's feedback being "private" would be cause for concern.
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soldat2
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posted on June 14, 2001 01:15:10 PM new
< Does anyone think private FB is a good idea? >
Ummmmmm...........no.
Private feedback is kinda like wearing a mask when you want to rob someone.
(at least in my opinion)
Mike
>one reason why a bidder would want to have their feedback profile private. Private=privacy.<
If you are buying & selling on the internet I really don't think that feedback 'privacy' is the biggest concern. Every buyer & seller has your info anyway, and I have yet to see anyone put an address or phone number in a feedback! (if so the ebay gods would zap it anyway)
I would like to hear a legit reason for having private feedback..............
....still waiting.........
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mcbrunnhilde
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posted on June 14, 2001 01:19:45 PM new
Some people who purchase adult items have private feedback so friends or family can't see what they're bidding on (of course, a solution to that is to have a separate ID for adult items, but some people may not know they can do that). At least one seller on this board ran into a "private" that had all positives, and that was the explanation (the transaction turned out to be fine).
Without eBay, I might have a real life... 
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gk4495
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posted on June 14, 2001 02:38:00 PM new
orchardmike:
To me the overall feedback score is like the box score at the end of the game. It gives you the totals but little else. For example: I want to know *why* they got two negatives in the last week. Was it retaliation negs? Was it for NPB? Was it for poor packaging? etc. The overalls tell me absolutely nothing. Feedback is the means by which you decide whether you wish to do business with a buyer or seller. It is our "references" or our "creditials" if you will. Not allowing me to see those references tells me the person is hiding something and, however unfair it may be, I will not do business with them regardless of what their "boxscores" say.
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caravaggio
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posted on June 14, 2001 02:44:24 PM new
Now that's something I would have to see for myself. A lot of the feedback posted in your first post sounds strange.
What is strange about it? It is feedback complaints from angry sellers to a deadbeat, what could be more simple than that? I would love to post the guys ID because I think sellers who would accept a bidder with FB this horrible should be warned. When I click on private by his name it pulls up a blank FB card, I don't get that. Maybe I did something wrong?
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mrspock
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posted on June 14, 2001 02:46:02 PM new
funny you should ask.
I just decided not to bid an a item beouse seller had private feedback
It was a high price item I did click on the private he had somthing like 60 positeive 2 negitive
The 2 negitive in themselves would not have necessarly kept me from bidding but with no way to see what they were I decided to pass...the item was at a low bid price probably becouse others had passed also.
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sharkbaby
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posted on June 14, 2001 02:53:14 PM new
I can certainly understand the desire to have private fb if someone doesn't want others to know what items they are purchasing. I would respect that and be happy to do biz with them if there were no negs on there.
But even if there was one neg I would be paranoid simply because I had to leave a neg once that stated that the buyer paid with a stolen credit card. So, only one neg of that nature would be a VERY bad thing.
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triplesnack
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posted on June 14, 2001 08:09:53 PM new
I understand that by clicking on the item # associated with a specific feedback, you can pull up the listing for any item that's still in the system (going back 90 days or more).
But does having private feedback make it impossible to pull up a bidder's purchases using the search engine (which only goes back 30 days)?
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soldat2
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posted on June 15, 2001 05:06:17 AM new
>Does anyone think private FB is a good idea?<
After a little thought I came up with my latest thought......
....the ONLY time that I could understand having private feedback would be if you are buying (or selling) "ADULT" related items,
then I would/could understand trying to be a little incognito. (but then I would expect the sellers and bidders to be private also)
I need nothing bad enough to buy it from a big city stranger wearing a mask in a dark alley.........
Playing with fire you can expect to get burned now & then.
And on, and on...........
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