posted on June 26, 2001 12:56:23 AM
This site needs to think about what it does during the testing time. I like to push the envlope a little before I get involvedso I posted this auction.
Subject:
OASC item #995318749 SET OF 3 FINE ART PRINTS BY SORAYAMA
Date:
Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:56:41 -0700
From:
"name removed" <me>
To:
<you>
Hello, thank you for listing your item at OASC. Adult items and pornography are not allowed, according to the terms of our host
Hypermart.net. Please do not list a similar item again. Thank you for your cooperation. (name removed)
The above ebay link has been on ebay over 100 times in the last 5 years, and never a problem. This is art by a listed artist. No communication from the site prior to removal, and no fact finding from other members in the discussion area. They need to leave questionable auctions up for view and disccusion, during thier test time. What are your thoughts. ED
posted on June 26, 2001 06:34:02 AM
One guy took some free software and gave us what many months of conversation, hundreds, if not thousands, of involved people and all the good intentions in the world had not yet accomplished.
A co-op site of our own.
Yes, it has problems. Yes, it will always have problems.
No, it will never challange eBay.
But it's there, up and running, free, still in Beta testing, waiting for whoever wants to be involved to join and become part of guiding the shape, rules and priorities of the site.
And not serving everyone will be a positive. It is an easily followed example of how a co-op site can be started.
Don't like this site. Start one that meets your needs. I hope dozens of these sites develop.
Focused on special interests, categories of products, items banned on eBay or anything one or more sellers want to market. With their own rules and standards as determined by the group.
And linked together as a federation of co-op auction sites promoted by the involved sellers.
OASC isn't the venue we need to beat eBay, I'm 100% certain of that, but OASC is the idea, role model and prototype of the combined sites that will return competitive balance to the online marketplace.
Come on over to the Other Online Auctions Forum here at AW and see what they're doing.
posted on June 26, 2001 04:02:50 PM
Well, if the item is adult in nature and Hypermart forbids it, they have to follow what Hypermart dictates. Don't you have anything more PG-rated to post?
PS Define "pushing the envelope, please."
[ edited by isworeiwouldneverdothis on Jun 26, 2001 04:03 PM ]
posted on June 26, 2001 04:21:03 PM
But what if it IS the start of what we need to beat ebay???? Let's see. In the near future there will be 2 distinctly different types of ebay sellers.
1) the "big boys"- Disney, sun, ReturnBuy etc...
2) the "little guys"- mostly folks like us.
the sellers in group #2 are getting increasingly dissatisfied with ebay, and with supporting themselves + their families + ebay + all ebay's stockholders + the post office + everyone else in the chain . It makes perfect sense that we have to start cutting out some of the people in the loop- like ebay's stockholders- and start doing things OUR way. What better way than a co-op? Let Disney, Sun, ReturnBuy, and all the "big boys" support Ebay's stockholders. I don't really want to myself anymore if I can help it.
We do not allow links to auctions and it really isn't necessary to the discussion so I'm going to ask you to edit out the link to the auction and will give you 45 minutes to do this before I will have to delete.
If I have to delete, since it's the first post in the thread, the entire thread goes away.
I'm sending this to you in email as well, in hopes that you will be able to edit.
**EDIT** We will allow this link to stand since you are not discussing the buyer or seller, just so long as everyone is aware that this is the exception to the rule.
While I understand the rule against pointing to auctions, I believe this auction was cancelled and the email is only referance information and does not actually point to any present listing.
edited to say - sorry, your right - the ebay auction is live.
[ edited by reston_ray on Jun 26, 2001 05:48 PM ]