posted on July 28, 2001 07:14:41 PM
I have a bidder with 54 feedback all positives and has won 3 items and bid on another.....on one item he had a biding war with himself...he bid 4 times higher without anyone else bidding...but one of the bidders had a different ebay id 0 with shades and that one had the SAME email address as him..both with same email address..he made these muliple consecutive increase in bid amount within 5 mins.
Does this happen on ebay where a person increases his own winning bid..any ideas folks on this......????? Patrick
posted on July 28, 2001 07:52:05 PM
I have had a few Items where it looked like the bidder bid against them selves .
What happens is that they Return after a while to incress there proxy bid.
The second Id is an odd one but it is posiable the person was haveing trouble with there ISP or had went out and incressed there proxy from someone elses computr and account who knows
I'm a little surprised no one has pointed out that what this seller has described is your classic bid shielding under way.
The bidder bids against himself to get the bid up high enough to scare off anyone else, then in the final moments, he will retract the bids of one ID, allowing the bid amount to drop all the way down to his original low bid.
posted on July 31, 2001 08:48:58 AM new
This was posted on eBay's announcements board yesterday:
<I>***New Bid Retraction Rules***
Within the current bidding system at eBay, it is possible to retract a bid under exceptional circumstances (as indicated in section 4 of the User Agreement) at any time while a listing is active. Unfortunately, some users have abused this by retracting late in the listing's duration to manipulate the listing - this practice is called bid shielding. Use of the bid retraction feature in this manner hurts both sellers and legitimate bidders; therefore, we are changing the bid retraction policy.
In order to address this issue we will add the following special retraction rules:
**If you place a bid before the final 12 hours of the listing you may only retract that bid under exceptional circumstances, and you must retract the bid before the last 12 hours of the listing. You will not be allowed to retract a bid placed prior to the final 12 hours of the listing during the last 12 hours of the listing.
**If you place a bid during the last 12 hours of a listing you will be allowed to retract the bid for exceptional circumstances, but only if you do so within one hour of placing the bid.
Note that you may still retract a bid anytime before the last 12 hours if you have an exceptional reason for doing so -- for example the seller materially changes the item's description. Please refer to the Bid Retractions page for further information on this policy.
To ensure that the buyer and seller experiences are equitable, sellers will not be able to add to their item's description during the last 12 hours of the listing. Sellers will be unable to revise or add to their description within the last 12 hours if there are existing bids on the item; the seller will need to cancel bids and end the listing early instead.
We hope these changes will help to provide a better trading experience for all eBay bidders and sellers.
Regards,
eBay </I>
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