gravid
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posted on September 4, 2001 08:53:50 AM
Sorry I have been reading too many import instruction manuals.
What would you call this (junk if that's true) - it has soft creases in that follow the pattern - and it does not show well in the pic but there is a lot of gold in the pattern. It seems to be made with natural clay - that is it has a few bumps that come from sand in clay that has not been disolved and screened.
Here are the marks on back -
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goldensands
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posted on September 4, 2001 11:24:14 AM
Gravid: I really don't know what this is, except that it is a very pretty piece.
I wonder if the gold trim would be considered moriage? A lot of older Nippon pieces are made that way, though this piece is definitely not Nippon.
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gravid
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posted on September 4, 2001 12:43:28 PM
Thanks for the suggestion - after reseraching it I think that moriage refers to the raised beaded design although moriage pieces seem to have a lot of gold I noticed. I don't usually get ceramics but you never know what you will find in a locker auction.
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meridenmor
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posted on September 4, 2001 01:35:35 PM
The piece appears to be a Japanese item, made for export. Probably would not go wrong calling it Satsuma, late 19th-early 20th century. Looks to be better than average quality. Nice item, show the signiture. I don't know if bidders can actually read this, but it seems to perk up bids. Good luck, Dale
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gravid
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posted on September 4, 2001 09:18:43 PM
Thanks - I will research that name a bit also - appreciate it.
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hwahwahwahwa
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posted on September 4, 2001 10:50:15 PM
first the 3 japanese characters (they are also chinese characters) ARE UPSIDE DOWN!!!!!
first character is FIELD as in farming
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misscandle
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posted on September 5, 2001 12:10:02 AM
Yep, Gravid, the characters are upside down. I'll have to dig out my college Chinese books to tell you what it says. Or, I'll ask my neighbor to pop over tomorrow to see if she can read it. She's from China.
Aloha.
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kiara
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posted on September 5, 2001 12:15:15 AM
Chinese marks:
http://www.gotheborg.com/marks/index_marks.htm
Japanese marks:
http://www.gotheborg.com/marks/20thcenturyjapan.shtml
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misscandle
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posted on September 5, 2001 12:53:32 AM
Okay, using the site Kiara provided for Japanese markings, the first two characters (bottom to top in Gravid's upside-down world) seem to be the cursive style for writing "Nihon" which means "Japan". The third character eludes me, but I'll keep trying to figure it out.
Thanks to Kiara for two cool websites!
p.s. Gravid, if I'm wrong, remember how much this cost you. 
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misscandle
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posted on September 5, 2001 04:24:17 AM
I'm calling it a night. I still can't decipher that last character. I recognize parts of it, but since it is cursive (and obviously written by a drunken Japanese physician) it's all Greek to me. I'm going to bank on another bright AW-er to come along and bail us out of this one. Off to dream in Kanji....
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hwahwahwahwa
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posted on September 5, 2001 06:41:50 AM
going by the first character,FIELD,it is a satsuma
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kiara
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posted on September 5, 2001 07:37:41 AM
Credit for the oriental markings site should go to montcrieff who first posted it here at AW back in May.
It is a wonderful site and I thank him/her for sharing it. 
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gravid
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posted on September 5, 2001 07:57:03 AM
You folks exceed my expectations. Thanks for the links I will bookmark them.
Misscandle - I will remember what it cost me!
Something about this piece called out to me that is was not a piece of junk to toss.
I will rotate my pic but the server is down for a couple hours.
After rotating it the symbols read to me -
Bicycle lock
Hobbyhorse
Waterskier with collie hat
Seriously thanks....
[ edited by gravid on Sep 5, 2001 08:03 AM ]
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