posted on September 15, 2001 07:58:11 PM
I just recieved this email from the winner of an auction. I am not sure what to make of it. I'm not sure what he is trying to say.
Any ideas, I left out user names but left feed back # so you could see bidding pattern.
I'm just not that ebay savvy!
Hi,
I just won the 12 pez auction.
I was testing a small hypothesis and the eBay system let me bid against
myself. Very curious. This has happened before so I was checking again.
If you look at the bid history you'll see what I am talking about. The
final bid should be $16.00.
$16.50 Sep-15-01 19:33:46 PDT
(820) $16.00 Sep-15-01 14:40:28 PDT
(429) $16.00 Sep-15-01 19:31:20 PDT
(429) $15.00 Sep-15-01 19:30:51 PDT
(429) $13.00 Sep-13-01 05:26:06 PDT
(820) $12.00 Sep-12-01 14:48:01 PDT
(429) $12.00 Sep-13-01 05:25:31 PDT
(429) $10.00 Sep-11-01 09:28:04 P
When your at the end of your rope:
Tie a knot and hang on!
posted on September 15, 2001 08:09:41 PM
Do you understand what he means by bid should be $16.00. How did you check on the ID's? I'm am unfamiliar with checking anything except feedback.
Thanks
When your at the end of your rope:
Tie a knot and hang on!
posted on September 15, 2001 08:10:12 PM
I think it is because he bids, get immediately out bid, bids again, gets outbid again, then bids and gets high bid. He will be in there twice at the bottom, then the other guy with the earler bid, and then his third winning bid.
No matter how it looks, he isn't bidding against himeslef, he is bidding against the proxy bidder.
posted on September 15, 2001 08:11:50 PM
it is okay to bid against oneself-sometimes a person can place one bid and then justto make sure no one snipes it ,bid again with a higher amount.
but it should not raise the high bid amount .
the high bid amount only changes if the bidder uses a different id to bid against himself.you can check your auction bidding history and see what is going on/
posted on September 15, 2001 08:17:50 PM
The bottom part of my post is the auction bid history. Honestly, I must be too tired because the answers have only confused me more.
How do you report to safe harbor? I just keep getting sent in circles.
Right now I'm not sure there is anything to report.
Thanks for input, guess I'll sleep on it and wait for his next response. If he pays I guess it really dosn't matter what he is talking about, unless he is trying to get off for .50 less. Go figure
When your at the end of your rope:
Tie a knot and hang on!
posted on September 15, 2001 08:23:06 PM
Updated Email from winner, I just recieved this, I guess no problem, just wanted to understand what was going on.
Still lost and clueless
I don't want to confuse the issue, but I had the high bid some time ago and it was
$16.00 which someone tied. I still was the high bidder since I hadn't been out bid.
I chose to set a higher limit, but the eBay machine upped the bid amount against
myself. Very strange. If you go to the auction page and
select the bid history on the right hand side you will see the list of bidders and
bid prices. The top two are mine, one against myself.
Any way, I'll send the extra .50 cents just for listening.
When your at the end of your rope:
Tie a knot and hang on!
posted on September 15, 2001 09:17:30 PM
connorscorner - actually, the answer is pretty straightforward. Before the auction ended he had the highest bid at $16, but in order to ensure a win he increased his proxy bid. When he did that, in effect he "outbid himself" because the eBay system increased the high bid by one increment (50 cents).
What he's saying is that had he not increased his proxy, he still would have been the winning bidder, but at $16 instead of $16.50.
posted on September 15, 2001 09:27:06 PM
This isn't a glitch in the system. This is how the system works.
Your bidder had put in a proxy bid of $16.00.
His competition then, later on, also put in a proxy bid of $16.00. Because your winner had put his bid in first, the auction page showed him to be the high bidder with a bid of $16.00.
But then when he went in to place another bid, as MurphyBird says, he wasn't just bidding against himself, he was bidding against his competition's $16.00 bid. So the system upped his high bid to $16.50, one increment above his competition's high bid.
