posted on October 3, 2001 09:11:30 AM
ONCE AGAIN WHY ARE BIDDERS BUYING USA ELECTRONIC GOODS FROM OVERSEAS DEALERS??
yes,it costs less,a lot less,but look what are they getting -VAPOR!!!!!
There is no way overseas sellers can get them at such a cheap price,unless they are stolen.
you want a laptop so bad?tighten your belts and eat less,save a few hundred dollars and buy one at sam club,compusa or bestbuy.
courteous service,salesman speak english,will take your cc,carry your good to your car,shake your hands and wave goodbye.
do romanian,russian,indonesian or ukrainian sellers do all these-note the part on waving you goodbye at the parking lot.
buy usa goods in good old usa
posted on October 3, 2001 09:13:53 AM
may be someone should take ebay to court-meg was on tv a few days ago saying folks come to ebay and buy pc for 500 dollars becasue they cant afford store price.there you go,lady and gentlemen,meg is endorsing all these crook dealers on ebay
posted on October 3, 2001 09:21:57 AM
What I can't understand is why ANYONE would buy a computer on eBay. I suppose people think they are saving money, but I'd rather pay double from a local store and have service and a warranty.
Buy local. Deciding to send some third party on eBay (who may be in another country) money for a computer is not a good investment any way you look at it.
posted on October 3, 2001 09:43:44 AM"Most consumers would not notice this, but eBay would, had they looked,"
Well, DUH! So why didn't this supposedly smart guy look before HE bid! But he expects ebay to have looked for him. Another case of "protect me from myself".
posted on October 3, 2001 10:08:16 AM
I don't get it. Someone stole this person's account and set up bogus auctions and probably changed the password so he couldn't access his account. Why couldn't ebay shut them down once they were alerted to the situation?
As far as the buyers go: "There's one born every minute". The minute I noticed the money was going outside the USA, especially to the ukrain, the deal would be off.
posted on October 3, 2001 11:17:11 AM
I got a GREAT computer off eBay 18 months ago. None of my local stores had the
exact configuration I needed to do digital
video editing. Only 10 machines on all of eBay fit my specs. Builder was in U.S.
and even gave me technical help when I ran
into a snag that I couldn't figure out months
after the purchase.
posted on October 3, 2001 10:19:20 PM
I have bought the large majority of my computer equipment online and at auction - from person to person sellers. Buyers must use common sense when buying, especially in the computer/electronics area.
TAG wrote about this problem back in August --
http://www.auctionguild.com/generic.html?pid=65
with some contact info for Western Union, (the scammers fave payment service and unwitting friend) and some tips to avoid the problems.
-Rosalinda
ebaY subscribes to TAGnotes - someone needs to let them know what is going on in their company - www.auctionguild.com
posted on October 4, 2001 05:19:13 AM
i can understand buying used or special customs made pc on ebay for kids,for special purpose or backup but just dont buy brand new ones made by us makers from romanian,indonesian,ukrainian,russian dealers,especially if you want to use them for business.
QUOTE:"Until we, the security community, began to build next generation systems and stop worrying about kiddy scripts and low-level hacks, the growth of technology and autoscripting attacks and hacks will far outpace the ability of historical IDS systems"END QUOTE
QUOTE"More recently, Mr. Bass has provided expertise and guidance to the US DoD Joint Task Force on Computer Network Defense (JTF-CND) in the area of distributed denial of service attacks (DDoS) and numerous other network management, network defense & Internet-centric risk management issues."ENDQUOTE
Secondly, how did Murphy know his ID had been stolen before the auction started?
QUOTED from article:
"Murphy, who has a rating of "excellent" for reliability among eBay users, first notified the company of the theft of his account on Sept. 18. However, the auctions still started the next day, and "eBay paid no attention to this, despite my e-mails every day"
Why didn't Murphy just end the auctions himself? How did he even know about the 9 auctions before they actually started?
There are WAY too many inconsistencies in this article and I doubt it's accuracy. Also, I can't find any other reference to this alleged scam ANYWHERE on the net. No news agency is covering it. It's just too weird!!
posted on October 4, 2001 11:14:14 PM
I make a living selling laptops and computer related products. I have a high feedback rating and lots of repeat customers. There are a lot of people that live in small towns that Radio Shack and/or Wal Mart are there only computer stores. Also I sell a lot to people that live in Big Cities in NY, NJ, FL, & WA where the sales tax in unreal. They might save $100 by buying from me and I charge just a little under retail plus shipping. Also some people just don't want to bother with going to Best Buy where they rarely have anything in stock and very uneducated sales people. I know people that own computer stores that opened near a Best Buy or hope to be near a Best Buy one day because people come out of there so frustrated. I know I have. I do agree that you should never buy from somebody over seas or somebody that has a low feedback rating. If people ask I send my 800 number to them and they can ask me questions and see that I don't have an accent.
posted on October 5, 2001 07:49:10 AM
Hello Eventer and captainkirk. Since we're not allowed to put auction links here I'd like you to check out some of the auctions that Bass has bid on if you get a chance. We found the auction in question and there are too many clues to possible fraud for someone as savy as Bass to overlook. Warning bells would be ringing for most eBay users on this particular auction. Either he lacks common sense or something else is going on that may not be readily apparent.
Eventer, two of us are currently experimenting with changing our password to see what happens from eBay's end. I know so far that they send a notification via email of a password change but we're also working on something else. I'll let you guys know the final results from this little experiment.
Took a look see & have to agree. A blind man should have been able to spot the problems in that sale (and the other ones he bid on). If he's "savy", he's not too savy about buying computer equipment off ebay. I'm thinking there's more to this than the article portrayed..a lot more.
