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 stormypetr
 
posted on January 20, 2002 07:38:09 AM
Does Ebay suspend for excessive negatives anymore? I looked on their site but could not find any reference to it. It looks like they only suspend for fraud and non-paying bidder complaints. Is this correct? Could someone send me the link if I am missing it? Thanks!

 
 tomwiii
 
posted on January 20, 2002 08:16:25 AM
Last I heard it went something like this:

If your TOTAL FB RATING = -4 feeBay will boot ya, but only if somebody rats ya out

 
 stopwhining
 
posted on January 20, 2002 08:25:24 AM
i would think ebay robot would automatically catch this,a no brainer .

 
 stormypetr
 
posted on January 20, 2002 08:26:38 AM
I also thought they would suspend if your total rating was -4 but I can't find anywhere on their site that actually says this.

 
 springmoon
 
posted on January 20, 2002 08:36:01 AM
feeBay robot is busy adding 5 cents to BINs -- booting negative 4s is counter productive.


 
 BananaSpider
 
posted on January 20, 2002 10:16:44 AM
springmoon

My thought exactly. Great minds think alike!

 
 BananaSpider
 
posted on January 20, 2002 10:22:04 AM
Oh, I forgot.

User Agreement

8. Feedback.
You may not take any actions that may undermine the integrity of the feedback system. If you earn a net feedback rating of -4 (minus four), your membership will be suspended, and you will be unable to list or bid.

 
 stormypetr
 
posted on January 20, 2002 10:34:00 AM
Thanks for the info, BananaSpider! That is what I was looking for. You can't do a Search on their site and find it. Tammy

 
 mrbusinessman
 
posted on January 20, 2002 11:15:08 AM
You may not take any actions that may undermine the integrity of the feedback system. If you earn a net feedback rating of -4 (minus four), your membership will be suspended, and you will be unable to list or bid.

But you CAN (and most do) simply open a brand spanking new account and bid away. ebaY's policy of suspending users for negatives is almost as illogical as a seller's wishing for it to happen.

The only way to reasonably enforce a suspension is to require bidders to register with a credit card when a new account is opened(and even this method has a few loopholes such as multiple credit cards in the user's wallet).

As the system works now, a suspended bidder simply opens a new ebaY account and starts bidding again with a fresh, "negless" ebaY account. A much better approach would be for ebaY to FORCE users to bid with their existing account with the negs and bid retractions out in the open for all (sellers) to see. NARUing a deadbeat simply does him a favor by giving him an incentive to open a new account, erasing the warts and blemishes of the old one in the process.

You may not take any actions that may undermine the integrity of the feedback system.

ebaY itself seriously undermines the integrity of the feedback system by NARUing deadbeats and then allowing them to simply re-register a new account with no feedback record. Am I the only poster on this board who sees just how illogical this rule is (and how illogical it is for sellers to demand that ebaY enforce it)?




 
 BananaSpider
 
posted on January 20, 2002 11:53:31 AM
mrbusinessman

All valid points but I don't understand the logic in allowing these bidders to continue to bid and not pay. Granted they can do that anyway by creating a new account but there is always a chance of eBay or another seller catching this and shutting them down for good.

Unless keeping their negative account meant, we, as sellers, have a blanket way of blocking the bidders that accumulate an overall negative feedback rating, I still believe supension is the only workable solution.

I would rather see a way to block bidders that had 1 or 2 previous NPB's filed against them.

 
 mrbusinessman
 
posted on January 20, 2002 12:38:11 PM
All valid points but I don't understand the logic in allowing these bidders to continue to bid and not pay.

I agree that it's illogical to allow the deadbeats to keep bidding without paying. But there is no foolproof way to stop it. This is exactly why it makes no sense to NARU the neg-laden bidders and thus encourage them to open a fresh new account.

Granted they can do that anyway by creating a new account but there is always a chance of eBay or another seller catching this and shutting them down for good.

I disagree. There simply is no way of shutting the deadbeats down for good short of requiring a credit card during registration. The habitual deadbeat WILL continue to use ebaY and bid. It simply makes no sense to NARU them given the current system in place. (IMO of course).


[ edited by mrbusinessman on Jan 20, 2002 12:39 PM ]
 
 
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