ok4leather
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posted on March 17, 2002 09:09:35 PM new
I was listening to Clark Howard Saturday afternoon & he did a segment about Rampant fraud on ebay and something about paypals customer service - I heard most of the ebay stuff but missed the paypal segment because I had a customer in the shop - The ebay part was about them doing everything they can do to prevent scams and fraud but still the being unable to hold back the tidal wave or .... you get the ideal- It sounded really bad - I wonder if there has been a media release along those lines which has slowed buying ? Anyone notice anything ?
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mballai
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posted on March 17, 2002 09:29:59 PM new
Haven't heard anything by Howard--haven't heard of him before. I noticed that David Coursey on ZDNet giving a thumbs down to auctions for scammers. There's been a big media smear on auctions as being high on the list for consumer complaints. This means that there has to be a lot of auction buying, which leads to some whiney wet diaper complaints for everything from late deliveries (whose fault is that???) and the perennial favorite of overpriced shipping charges (time for a new pair of glasses).
Naturally it's the complainers who get noticed. The media exists for what goes wrong not what goes right. No news value in that apparently.
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Libra63
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posted on March 17, 2002 10:07:37 PM new
Here you go ok4leather. If you can remember the day the program originally was broadcasted they you can search and find out what he said. He doesn't have a live show on Saturdays so it must have been a different day it originally aired. I searched until Feb. 28 but nothing of interest on PayPal or Ebay.
He is very frugal and great to listen to. I don't here him all the time just once in a while.
http://clarkhoward.com/topics/credit_debt.html
This should work now
[ edited by Libra63 on Mar 17, 2002 10:08 PM ]
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outoftheblue
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posted on March 18, 2002 01:59:19 AM new
You just have to love all of the idiots out there that don't have a clue. Fraud is rampant everywhere, not just on Ebay. Smart (well informed) people don't get ripped off. They use common sense when making purchases online.
[ edited by outoftheblue on Mar 18, 2002 02:00 AM ]
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mballai
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posted on March 18, 2002 03:24:02 AM new
Even smart people do get ripped off. I've had some less than wonderful transactions on eBay and Amazon. I chalk it up to experience and the fact that I still am thousands of dollars ahead of what I would have paid elsewhere.
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posted on March 18, 2002 03:32:30 AM new
I don't here him all the time just once in a while.
I here what you saying!
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tomwiii
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posted on March 18, 2002 03:46:19 AM new
Hear! Hear! 
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stopwhining
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posted on March 18, 2002 05:16:35 AM new
mballai- thousand of dollars ahead despite being ripped off on ebay/amzn etc????
you must be buying a lot ?what is your secret??
may be you can write a book and sell it on ebay.
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ok4leather
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posted on March 18, 2002 06:59:34 AM new
Thankyou Libra63 - I checked his show notes up to the 13th and didnt see anything - Must have been Thursday or Fridays show and they havnt posted the update yet. Mballai - Clark Howard has a natn'l Radio show where he points out low cost good deals and scams / ripoffs especially on the net. Lot of people listen and act on what he points out. This could be bad news for ebays expansion plans if the media builds on it. At least he didnt say anything about Yahoo.
Ok4
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Libra63
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posted on March 18, 2002 08:27:22 AM new
To err is human to forgive devine.
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mballai
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posted on March 18, 2002 10:52:07 AM new
stopwhining
No secret really. I had some bad transactions, but weighed with those that worked well, I am ahead. I figure I save about $1,000 a year on what I buy on eBay over what I might pay conventionally. I don't think I buy all that much either. Just shop around first. Some of the best bargains on the web are not on eBay.
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litlux
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posted on March 18, 2002 01:59:45 PM new
Ebay is so big that even a miniscule amount of fraud will be grist for the media mill.
Fraud, major and minor, does happen on ebay, and since so many people are familiar with ebay, it is a fair topic for reports.
A number of regulars here (including myself) have posted time and again that extortionate shipping charges, slow delivery, and no refund policies will eventually hurt all of us.
It has begun.
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It is too bad that instead of the idiotic Power Sellers program, ebay did not instead devise a Guaranteed Sellers program. Such a program would bind sellers to a certain level of performance and responsibility which would be clearly posted and give buyers more confidence in the auction process.
The program would outline strict rules regarding honesty of descriptions, speed and cost of shipping, and return/refund/exchange policies.
Sellers who chose to adhere to these rules would benefit from more and higher bids.
There could even be a matching Guaranteed Buyers program which would set out rules as to payment.
Controlling fraud and reducing deadbeat buyers/sellers should be one of the open forums of the ebay convention in Anaheim.
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