posted on June 28, 2002 05:47:55 AM new
Had filed a NPB on this fellow, and I get a email from him, saying he doesn't trust me, so i said in my best way, you can and sorry if you got burned, so was I.Well I get this response...
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Thanks for the explanation. I will have the money order sent out today. As for
being burnt, I was burnt three times - twice buying tickets (never sent,
claiming that money order was never received in po box - stated that I needed
proof of receipt) and once selling tickets (again, never received, proof of
receipt). All three times, I was refunded the full amount and the guilty parties
were prosecuted and charged with fraud (one actually received a 10-15 year jail
sentence). This occurred 2 years ago and the seller/buyers have since been
removed from ebay.
I am not afraid of getting burnt, as I have numerous family members and friends
in law enforcement with access to every and any kind of personal information you
can imagine. I just want to avoid the hassles of prosecuting the guilty parties
and going to court. Anyway, I am comfortable enough with dealing with you and as
stated, I will have the payment sent out today.
If you have any additional questions or comments, please fell free to contact me
via email.
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WOW couldn't this guy help the thousands of buyers who got burned by thebarry?
However, isn't it AGAINST police rules for an officer to give out personal info of a citizen to a friend? Isn't that against our constitutional rights? I mean if this guy can get 2 people in jail for 15 years for over a 30 dollar concert ticket, why can't they do anything about thebarry?
Anyway, 17 days later, I FINALLY get his payment, and I get this email from him day after i get his payment...
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Please give me an update of the auction. It has been over two weeks and I haven't heard or seen anything! I do not wish to talk to my friends and family in the force and prosecute you, so please let me know why you haven't sent the item
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HELLO! The stamp on the envelope indicates this payment was mailed 4 days ago! This guy is giving me the creeps. Maybe I should just send his money back? next thing you know, he will claim item is damaged, lost or something and try to "prosecute" me? What would you guys do?
posted on June 28, 2002 06:00:13 AM new
I am getting my fair share of kooks this summer too. I know how you feel!
Why don't you just scan the envelople or take pic of it with a digital camera and email it to him and let him know that you know that it was mailed only 4 days ago, and that his "law enforcement scare tactics" are not going to work with you.
You have the postmarked envelope and he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
posted on June 28, 2002 06:36:37 AM new
Reply with that you just got the check and let him know that you have made a copy of the post mark to show that it was mailed only four days ago.
Also, let him know that Federal Law is very clear on this, you have 30 days to ship out an item after payment is received and if he contacts his "friends on the force" and they start to harrass you, then you will counter with a law suit that will make you own the little town he is in.
posted on June 28, 2002 07:42:54 AM new
I would not do anything to increase this whacko's hostility or paranoia. I would send a professional email, making no note of his claims, saying "Payment has just been received, postmarked XX/XX and the package will be sent (tomorrow) via (type of mail) with Delivery Confirmation, signature required. Thank you for your purchase, and I hope you enjoy it."
I would even think twice about putting them on your blocked bidder list. One person I did this to, ended up using another id to screw up several auctions. Even with proof, ebay did nothing. So the less you ruffle the feathers, the less likely you are to get pecked to death.
posted on June 28, 2002 08:13:08 AM new
The guy sounds like a whacko and the typical "story" they tend to tell sellers/buyers. Other eBay users perpetuate this type of stuff by advising things like "tell the bogus user that your relative lives near them and will pay them a visit".
eBay is getting very bad with more and more bogus bidders and sellers and the fixed price venues like Half.com look better and better and safer.
posted on June 28, 2002 08:43:51 AM newlitlux wrote,
I would not do anything to increase this whacko's hostility or paranoia. I would send a professional email, making no note of his claims, saying "Payment has just been received, postmarked XX/XX and the package will be sent (tomorrow) via (type of mail) with Delivery Confirmation, signature required. Thank you for your purchase, and I hope you enjoy it."
I would even think twice about putting them on your blocked bidder list. One person I did this to, ended up using another id to screw up several auctions. Even with proof, ebay did nothing. So the less you ruffle the feathers, the less likely you are to get pecked to death.
I agree 100% with litlux, send out his order-package and move on.
well upon inspection of the item, a used PSX2 video game, there was some minor blemish, I never said in my auction it was new or pristine, it is a used PSX2 game, a former rental from Blockbusters, but it was a blue coated disc, and it is now known that some blue coated games on PSX2 might not work on some earlier PSX2 systems, and didn't mention that in my auction for at the time I didn't know. I had nothing but positive experience from customers having trouble with it, as there is a apperent web site that helps them.
But my girlfriend didn't want some hassle from him, so she thought trai had a good point and decided not to mail the item, and wrote a simple letter to him explaining that since the item, despite the fact the auction stated as being in used condition, does have some imperfection/blemish, and we don't want you to file anything with the police department for a minor misunderstanding, so we will mail your payment back tomorrow! She also (I didnt tell her to) mentioned she is scared of his letters! (should have proof read her email!)
Well we get this....
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Your long, extensive email was unnecessary. I am not going to reply as such, as I don't have the time. ButI will briefly respond to some of your comments.
First, my emails should only be scary to those whohave reason to be scared - such as deadbeat sellersand buyers. Even unlisted number and address is attainable if the person commits a crime. In no way is what any of my friends orfamily members in law enforcement do is illegal. I do
not and will not defend it any further.
Besides, it is public information and can be obtained by anyone.Also, try the internet - you can find ANYTHING aboutANYONE...trust me.
As for the time the has elapsed, I guess it justseemed so long because I didn't receive a single emailfrom you with a status update - as I requested in my initial email.
One last thing, the next time you put an item up forbid, it would be wise to make sure it is decent condition PRIOR to placing it on ebay.
Although I am upset that you wasted my time in thistransaction, I do appreciate you not sending an imperfect item. Please send the payment back and we'll both move on.
Finally, there is no reason why anyone should have lost sleep, feared, or felt threatened. You have to realize that the way you do business fits the criteria
for fraudulent activity. You should look into PayPaland other online payment methods that ensureconfidence in buyers.
I will be looking for the letter to arrive no later than next Friday, or else I will have to contact the proper authorities.
**** **********
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Ah without sounding like a know-it-all, but ever since that actress Rebecca Schaffer was murdered by a fan in 1989, I thought personal info, especially unlisted ones, was no LONGER public info, unless someone you know in the Drivers License or police gives it to you, and they can lose their job if found out?
Also frequent email? Was I suppose to email this dude once every other day, TELLING him "Hi, I STILL haven't recieved payment?"
As for paypal being secure, can we say thebarry?
i dont know, I think my girlfriend did the right thing cancelling this transaction (but maybe shouldn't have mentioned the "scared" part). And I should mail back the money with Dc and signature as well? What do you think?
posted on June 28, 2002 08:56:11 PM new
YOU BET SEND IT CERTIFIED, SIGN, SPEND THE MONEY on extra mail costs, and this guy is not for real, The law enforcement he knows are the keepers of his jail cell, so don't worry the worst will be the e-mail you get from the jerk.
posted on June 28, 2002 09:07:26 PM newAh without sounding like a know-it-all, but ever since that actress Rebecca Schaffer was murdered by a fan in 1989, I thought personal info, especially unlisted ones, was no LONGER public info, unless someone you know in the Drivers License or police gives it to you, and they can lose their job if found out?
I don't know about other states, but in California this is absolutely true. In fact, an employee in my husband's pd was recently terminated for accessing and using information for personal reasons. This guy isn't dealing with a full deck, and I think he's blowing hot air with every intent of "scaring" you. I would send his payment back post haste, and spring for delivery confirmation so you know for sure he gets it. Put him on your blocked bidder list! And frankly I would have considered this particular statement
I have numerous family members and friends in law enforcement with access to every and any kind of personal information you can imagine.
a "threat" from the get-go.
posted on June 28, 2002 10:58:49 PM new
Hi bidsbid, I should have put a rolleye or something, if you noticed i ont believe what he says, unless of corse he has a "corrupt" officers in the force!LOL My Girlfriend bought the story though.(
posted on June 28, 2002 11:01:00 PM new
Hi bidsbid, I should have put a rolleye or something, if you noticed i dont believe what he says, (note the HELLO!)unless of corse he has does have a "corrupt" officers in the force!LOL My Girlfriend bought the story though.(
posted on June 29, 2002 12:49:15 AM new
Don't let this dork push you around.
Send the person his refund. Then send him an email saying it has been mailed. Then request that he never contacts you again and you will consider it harrassment if he does.
posted on June 29, 2002 05:58:57 AM new
Ironking--I work for law enforcement here in
NY and it is ABSOULETELY forbidden for ANY law enforcement personel to give out ANY information to the public on ANYONE!We had this happen 2 years ago here,not only was the person fired,but is in jail-this is a felony
If this happens to you I would get an attorney and find out how and who this individual got the information from.Any law enforcement personel who gives out private information does NOT belong in law enforcement!!
posted on June 29, 2002 09:19:08 AM new
Not only would I mail him his payment back, block his bidding and inform him NEVER to contact you again, BUT ALSO, inform him that you have contacted law enforcement in his area as to him using his friends and family in law enforcement as him personal threat team. If you do actually contact the police in his area, they will not look kindly on him, nor his family (if they are actually in law enforcement)
Oh, yes. And send these threating emails to Safeharbor. It would be absolutely ironic if you got HIM kicked off eBay
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There are only 10 types of people in the world
Those who understand binary and those who don't
[ edited by mlecher on Jun 29, 2002 09:22 AM ]
posted on June 29, 2002 09:56:30 AM new
I do not at all fault you for cancelling the transaction but I think I would have completed it (or at least tried). Since you backed out, he probably believes you intended to commit fraud all along and just got scared.
I would definitely contact the authorities (maybe the District Attorney's Office) in his area and report his claim of suspicious activity. Who knows, they may already have an open case against these people in need of more substantial proof (of course, that's IF it is even true).
Even if it's not true, it's certainly harrassment and suggests stalking activities. They may just send an officer out to pay him a visit and put the scare in him.
posted on June 29, 2002 10:13:30 AM new
"I do not at all fault you for cancelling the transaction but I think I would have completed it (or at least tried). Since you backed out, he probably believes you intended to commit fraud all along and just got scared"
In this case there is no point to complete the deal. Even if one where to ship a brand new item, this whiner would find something wrong with it.
Never ever let some goofball know that they scare you, all that does is make them feel more powerful over you.
Just make sure that you put this fool on your bidders block and block their email also.
[ edited by mlecher on Jun 29, 2002 09:22 AM ]