rarriffle
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posted on December 8, 2002 04:33:46 AM
I cannot Id this union, anyone? Please?
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tomwiii
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posted on December 8, 2002 05:23:37 AM
Not union...FREEMASONS!
http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/Essays/
"What we have heah is a fail-ure to communicate!"
http://tinyurl.com/315v
[ edited by tomwiii on Dec 8, 2002 05:27 AM ]
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paloma91
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posted on December 8, 2002 06:38:43 AM
Yes, it is Free masons or masonic My dad belonged to it. I know it quite well!
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rarriffle
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posted on December 8, 2002 07:14:41 AM
sorry guys, this is not masonic...I purchased it thinking it was because my uncle is...the masonic does not have the fist with the hammer, it has the large G in the center.
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Twelvepole
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posted on December 8, 2002 07:44:16 AM
Check out old Navy insignia's. That looks like it maybe a Shipfitter or CB type.
Ain't Life Grand... 
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tomwiii
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posted on December 8, 2002 08:22:00 AM
Perhaps: F.O.O.B.S.??
Fraternal Order Of Baking Soda??
"What we have heah is a fail-ure to communicate!"
http://tinyurl.com/315v
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wendywins
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posted on December 8, 2002 10:23:17 AM
This may be a division of the Masons. They have many other branch organizations for men, women, boys, and girls.
I spent many years of my youth as a Job's Daughter and know there are so many other groups affiliated with this order.
Just the two cents Ebay hasn't gotten yet...
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ohmslucy
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posted on December 8, 2002 11:08:24 AM
I wonder if it predates the G? The arm and hammer are sorta G-shaped... Maybe it's really old.
Lucy
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Libra63
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posted on December 8, 2002 11:49:58 AM
I have an antique jewelry book that shows fobs and emblems with the masonic emblem dating back to 1896. They show several styles but most have a big G instead of the shield and no arm. The ones without the big G show a little G There are none in this book like the one you have..
wendywins - I was a Jobs Daughter all of my teen years.
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rarriffle
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posted on December 8, 2002 11:56:27 AM
thanks to all so far.
Libra, you know what they say about great minds...I think I checked the same book. I have a feeling this has something to do with metal work but can't find it on ebay
I did go to a site for union banners and there is one that shows a man with the hammer and his fist up working on a sword..
have not been able to find a site with union symbols though.
I don't believe it is a Masons
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Libra63
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posted on December 8, 2002 01:46:17 PM
I checked carpenters union but the only logo I could find is one that says union made but this is a challenge and I will try and look some more.
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wendywins
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posted on December 8, 2002 02:55:32 PM
Libra,
What a small world! I didn't think anyone knew about the archaic order anymore (or at least not in main stream America)! I am a PHQ from #338 West Sacramento. Kinda Funny.
wendywins
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sanmar
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posted on December 8, 2002 03:26:13 PM
I think it is Masonic, but maybe from another nation. Masonic Lodges are world wide. The Compass & the Square are definitely Masonic emblems. I have a pair of cuff links from an uncle, the compass & square with the G in the middle.
[ edited by sanmar on Dec 8, 2002 03:27 PM ]
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ohmslucy
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posted on December 8, 2002 04:06:40 PM
Ummm... I think I found it! Hey - do I get a prize or something?
http://www.gwgantiques.com/48682.htm
Sure hope I did the link right...
Lucy
Edited to add: Go to the Fraternal Order link at the bottom of the page, then Masonic Youth, Looks to be from the Junior Order United American Mechanics.
[ edited by ohmslucy on Dec 8, 2002 04:14 PM ]
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Libra63
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posted on December 8, 2002 05:26:08 PM
In my book you win the Prize. Send me your name and address and I will send you all my NPB, that's the least I can do. What about your rarriffle what will you give....
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Roadsmith
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posted on December 8, 2002 05:40:43 PM
Funny offer, Libra. LOL
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tooltimes
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posted on December 8, 2002 05:42:10 PM
So what is it? The emblem on the glass webpage doesn't say if it's Masonic for sure.
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Libra63
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posted on December 8, 2002 05:50:35 PM
Not Masonic - It is Junior Order of American Mechanics. If you scroll down to the small lettering at the end of the page you will see a secion Fraternal click that and they have more items up forsale.
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Libra63
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posted on December 8, 2002 05:54:25 PM
Here you are the total scoop......that is if your interested.
http://www.bessel.org/jouam.htm
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ohmslucy
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posted on December 8, 2002 08:13:06 PM
Gee, Libra, you're so generous! I think I'll pass, got enough of my own NPB's...
Interesting link you posted.
Just goes to show no matter what you're trying to ID the AW folks will help out.
Several months ago I had a very old childrens book - - The WooLoo and Lita May. I asked for help here and got pointed in the right direction. The lady who bought it said it was her daughter's favorite book when she was little. She bought it for the daughter's 50th birthday, delivered it to her in Hawaii. Both of them were very happy to get the book.
Lucy
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rarriffle
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posted on December 9, 2002 02:48:28 AM
you guys are all wonderful..so it is actually the Mechanics Union...my uncle said machinists but I definitely couldn't find it under that...
ohmslucy, it is hard to come up with a better prize than Libra gave...I will have to give it more thought to come up with something very special
Thanks everybody.
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