posted on February 8, 2004 01:03:54 PM
Since you are keyword spaming I doubt if that is legal. eBay doesn't allow it but I know some sellers do that. If someone else is selling guitars they just might report you and your auction is gone. I know that this isn't legal either but I sometimes put a keyword in a description. Hiding it down there your competetor is unlikely to find it unless he searches through title and description. Think of a very unusual title. Someone might come here and help with one as I use just drab auction titles.
posted on February 8, 2004 01:22:33 PM
Just list this under musical.... guitar. You will still be in the right section and not have to worry about getting your auction pulled.
If you use the name and you do not have this brand name then this would come under key word spamming.
Libra63 is right.
I am taking a long shot here as you did not state if this is your auction or someone else. But in any case it will be a crap shoot if it will stay on or get pulled.
posted on February 8, 2004 05:50:55 PM
yeah, IT WAS MINE!
BUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTED!!!!!!BY THE MAN~~~~
LITERALLY... "he" called me today to advise me that of my infraction...very nice, very professional discussion...
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i wont bore anybody with the entire confirming email; but the following is important part..
c/pasted:
We realize you may not be aware of this policy, but using such terms in this way is considered "Search Manipulation," which is not permitted by eBay.
Search Manipulation is any practice that results in searches on eBay returning irrelevant listings or that otherwise inhibits a user's ability to accurately locate specific items. There are several types of Search Manipulation, including:
Keyword Spamming - Keyword spamming is the practice of including brand names or other inappropriate "keywords" in a title or description for the purpose of gaining attention or diverting users to a listing.
Methods of Key Word Spamming include, but are not limited to:
1. Extra Brand Names in Title or Item Description
2. Not Brand X, Not Brand Y
3. Improper Trademark Usage
4. Lists of "Key" Words
5. Hidden Text (White on white text, or hidden text in HTML Code)
6. Drop Down Boxes
Brand Name Misuse - Do not include any brand names or company logos in your listings other than the specific brand name used by the company that manufactured or produced the item you are listing. Certain uses of brand names may also constitute trademark infringement and could expose sellers to legal liability.
Comparisons - Sellers are not permitted to make comparisons between items in a listing title.
Misleading Titles - eBay listing titles must accurately describes only the actual item or items you are offering for sale.
Search manipulation is unfair to members who may be searching for a specific item and receive inaccurate search results. Users often are confused and frustrated by such tactics. Certain uses of brand names may also constitute trademark infringement and could expose sellers to legal liability.
This notice is based solely upon review of the aforementioned listing. We encourage you to review all of your listings to ensure they are in full compliance with our guidelines. If found to be in violation of one or more of our guidelines, your current listings will be subject to further disciplinary action, including the cancelation of your listings. end paste.
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..while i on phone with the gentlemen from
ebay, i searched the word "NOT" and there are approx 21,000 auctions using this...now it may be that a small fraction of these may not be illegal..so, if you want to go bust somebody, check the list...i was evidently a target for somebody...
..i make no excuse; i have no defence. for while i operated like others, I KNEW BETTER...
posted on February 8, 2004 07:08:53 PM
myoldtoy, I think posting about it here did not help you any. I see those keywording spamming auctions all the time. Most seem very innocent or in the least harmless.
Like Ace said, how many schleps are pouring money into ebay? (I will raise my hand, one schleep at about 40%! haha) We always know how many auctions, how many items, I wonder how many individual sellers? Can you really fault them for trying to get more lookers?
posted on February 8, 2004 08:27:56 PM
Yep, I think that's called "Marketing" your goods. I used to see the keywords "Like" and "Not" all the time in the old eBay days. Guess people just got sick of searching for the real deal just to find a likeness or something that was Not what they were looking for. Rules, rules and more rules...
posted on February 8, 2004 11:40:19 PM
..yeah, i know it wont help me any-you rite!..and, i didnt mean anything i typed in that way..just wantd it[that i got busted] to be fyi..once seller is busted, your name now on a list.
..i absolutely agree, most are honest and harmless...it still remains that approx 21000 auctions do what i WAS doing..
..and, no way do i fault them for trying to get more lookers..
..my own problem now, is that i am vulnerable for putting something like this in my description:: "these Hitchcock style chairs are marked Nichols and Stone." ...seller has no chance to stop ebay from indiscriminately cancelling the auction - should their[THERE] be a complaint...the seller is for sure vulnerable - and judged guilty - by ebay...so again, it is my opinion, that eBay's operating on the "straight and narrow" benefits the complaining, certainly not the one who is trying to market his/her
product..
..and, again, my point is: its an easy way to get busted..
posted on February 9, 2004 05:22:59 AM
Trai--man that character looks like my wife when shes PMSING
myoldtoy--I have to admit when Im looking for something as a buyer,I get VERY annoyed when people do that-Imagine this-say I was looking for an Elvis cd.Then all the sellers that were selling Elvis records put this in there auction "Elvis LP not CD" Can you imagine all the crap I would have to wade thru to find what I was looking for? I know its a good selling tatic,but its a pain in the ass for the buyer.
[ edited by classicrock000 on Feb 9, 2004 05:36 AM ]
posted on February 9, 2004 09:36:21 AM
myold toy, so you're saying if the title is misleading is is really, really, illegal. ha.
This discussion went on before, but have to say there are some things you can only describe as blah-blah-blah like, to let the buyer know what it is. No?
posted on February 9, 2004 10:14:32 AM
They also spelled Mackenzie wrong. They won't be tossed for keyword spamming. But when people search for common misspellings they will see the auction.
Kinda like Paloma's Davy Crockett hat rack where she put the different spellings in her title.
Edited to add: In Paloma's case the misspellings were so people who spelled Davy Crockett wrong would find her auction.
Lucy
[ edited by OhMsLucy on Feb 9, 2004 10:22 AM ]
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