niel35
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posted on April 21, 2004 11:01:23 AM
This bidder won an auction on April 3 for a widget and with shipping it came to 46.30.
She send her address but I never heard from her again. I emailed her last night and asked when I might expect payment. She says she has to go out of town because her brother commited suicide and needs the money for airfare. I told her I have to file with ebay to get my fees back. She said she would have to borrow money to pay me. I have heard them all as have been on ebay for 4 years. What would you do???
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max40
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posted on April 21, 2004 11:52:17 AM
Mighty inconsiderate of her brother. I've heard them all too--too many times. NPB,FVFs and move on.
"The only thing more expensive than an education is ignorance" B. Franklin
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trai
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posted on April 21, 2004 12:30:11 PM
April 3, that's way too long too wait and ask for payment. What you have is a deadbeat pure and simple. As max says file for your fees and move on.
Put this "bidder"on your auction block so you do not have to deal with this again with her.
What I find works well for me is if I do not hear from them after I contact them then I send them only one more email within a week after auction closes.
After that I send a N.P.B. notice and if that does not wake them up I wait for the 10 days and file for my F.V.F.
After filing the N.P.B. I just relist the item or ask the second high bidder if they still want it. Never waste a lot of time on deadbeats if you can help it.
The future has taken root in the present.
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niel35
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posted on April 21, 2004 02:24:21 PM
thanks for your replies. I was afraid she was telling the truth and was feeling guilty.
I will do the NPB, FVF and block
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OhMsLucy
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posted on April 21, 2004 02:25:42 PM
Well, Niel, if she IS telling the truth, her brother's been on ice for a mighty long time...
Lucy
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ebayvet
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posted on April 21, 2004 03:20:23 PM
I don't challenge excuses, I always go ahead with the NPB/FVF process. On the rare occasion that they do pay and I still have the item to sell, I just reverse the FVF.
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bunnicula
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posted on April 21, 2004 03:34:51 PM
Guess I'm an old softie.
I'd give her a date the payment must arrive by, either by snail mail or through an onlinepayment service. If the payment arrived, great. If not, then I'd file NPB and leave a neg.
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Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on April 21, 2004 04:27:51 PM
I was ... feeling guilty.
What did you do wrong, that you should feel guilt for?
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dadofstickboy
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posted on April 21, 2004 04:38:53 PM
Tell her you'll let her slide if:
she sends you her brothers ear for proof!
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niel35
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posted on April 21, 2004 04:44:39 PM
DAD - you're BAD. I would get a neg for sure. LOL. Its too bad that there are so many that BS you and if there is a good excuse you can't believe it
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BlueGriffinStudio
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posted on April 23, 2004 05:38:11 PM
I listed an expensive item that I was SURE would bring a lot of bids, with a starting bid of $9.95 and no reserve. To my surprise, although it had about 60 hits, it only brought one bid and so I'm obligated to sell it for $9.95. My terms of sale clearly state that full payment must be received within 10 days of auction's close. So now I get an email from the winning bidder saying that she's going to pay me with Pay Pal, but she can't pay until about three days after the payment is supposed to be here because she has to wait for her disability check. (Most people who use Pay Pal use credit cards). Being an old softee, I emailed her back and said OK (only because there weren't any other bids), but also told her that she should have cleared it with me BEFORE bidding. Now I'm thinking I should have just said "Sorry, you're out of luck" and relisted it with a BIN. Any thoughts on this? (The item was used, but in next to new condition and originally cost about $150).
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myoldtoy
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posted on April 24, 2004 05:28:56 AM
ebayvet: i agree..WHATS A CHALLENGE GONNA DO.. i just continue the process to get some offset..
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and, we all suffering more and more of these "nonpaying" type transactions..this is example of last week..
i received 2 emails last week from sellers advising me of A npb'r.. they'd received this email from w/bidder, "i cant pay, i have lots my job today, sorry."
i did take time to reply-thank sellers for the info..
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i had already received the email also...
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WHATJAGONNADO?
myoldtoy
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photosensitive
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posted on April 24, 2004 05:46:34 AM
The problem is not just on eBay. My sister and I also sell on an online antique site. We now have 7 sales with non paying buyers and no feedback or possible suspension to hold over them. At least there are no listing fees or final value fees until the sale is finished but it takes the items out of inventory and requires time to hassle with the so called buyer while they string us along. Is buying on the internet a new computer game?
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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paloma91
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posted on April 24, 2004 05:50:33 AM
I have the same problem. I FINALLY sold something for over $200 ! Well, wouldn't you know it, the winner or should I say WIENER said, oh gosh, my car broke and I have to fix it. Can't afford your item. I am going to default on the auction. Ho hummm. Now I need to file for fees, relist etc. DARN!
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niel35
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posted on May 2, 2004 04:39:42 AM
Well folkd, you were right. I filed a NPB and a FVF just yesterday. Last night she said they were taking care of their uncle's personal effects and his funeral but they would pay when I let them know the total.
BROTHER ??? UNCLE ???? Wish she would make up her mind who it was that died.........
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classicrock000
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posted on May 2, 2004 05:23:00 AM
Niel35--Im sure shes telling you the truth-she probably lives in Kentucky-and they are both the same person.
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niel35
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posted on May 2, 2004 06:25:05 AM
Nope - Colorado. LOL
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stopwhining
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posted on May 2, 2004 07:16:16 AM
photosensitive,
ebay sellers will browse a website and look for items to resell,copy the item description and picture and list it on ebay.
they can tell you they are buying this item so you wont sell it to anyone else.
if the item gets no bid ,then you are not going to hear from them.
why dont you search ebay and see if your item(s) are there?? or were there at one time??
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
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Libra63
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posted on May 2, 2004 08:24:17 AM
I usually wait but I can honestly say I have never had an excuse like any of those. I do get the echecks but that is all. I sure hope my luck doesn't change. I do get non pay bidders though but I never get an excuse I just don't get a response. I never leave a negative as it doesn't to any good I do file for my charges and that leaves a mark on their record. If everyone does that then maybe by some stroke of luck some buyers will be NARU.
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whatnot3
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posted on May 2, 2004 10:57:08 AM
She must have needed the airfare to get to Kentucky.
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niel35
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posted on May 2, 2004 11:05:55 AM
right on, she had to fly somewhere. I don't think I will leave her a neg as she will just reciprocate. I did file a fvf so that out to do it.
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