glassgrl
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posted on November 12, 2004 11:56:20 AM new
don't you love the blurb on the other page?
"Sales Manager Gets a New Name
With the release of Sales Manager Inventory Edition, Vendio has re-named the current Sales Manager service to Sales Manager..."
I need mslucy's dizzy happy face for that one.
Anyway, I can't remember who was talking about it - but what was it about the grey (or is that gray?) background that is photo correct or is the correct color for photographing where your whites come out correct? Does this make better sense than the VD phrase above?
I'm going to have to get a new background. This is the first time I've tried to take auction pictures since we moved in and I don't have enough light damnit! I guess I'm going to have to install an overhead light. But the grey background actually sounded like it was what I need.
So what color grey/gray is it?
I can tell you right now that butcher paper doesn't work.
"It is only with the heart one sees rightly,
what is essential is invisible to the eye."
Antoine de Saint Exupery
[ edited by glassgrl on Nov 12, 2004 12:06 PM ]
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OhMsLucy
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posted on November 12, 2004 12:10:44 PM new
Hi Glassgrl,
I hope one of our resident photo experts comes along with the answer.
Correct color is one of my toughest problems. I take my pictures in filtered daylight from south and west windows. The photo platform is angled in the corner. I still have trouble.
At least I can help a little bit!
[*silly*] = 
Without the stars, of course.
Lucy
Edited to add: Newsprint isn't working for me. Goes yellow. Very frustrating.
[ edited by OhMsLucy on Nov 12, 2004 12:12 PM ]
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on November 12, 2004 12:14:26 PM new
An 18% grey background is actually what most photographers use to get accurate light readings. A controlable light source is also important. Depending on the types of lights you're using, you may need to adjust the white balance settings on your camera. Hope that helps!
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on November 12, 2004 02:01:34 PM new
I nearly always shoot on pure white background paper. Having one "kind" of light is useful, but unfortunately I have daylight, daylight balanced bulbs and tungsten bulbs all coming together. Setting WB each time lighting changes (for example, morning/noon/evening) is important -- luckily on my camera it takes all of 5 seconds.
The 18% gray card is for setting exposure in "normal" situations. However, if you're doing a high key photo on white paper, you really should use a live histogram in your camera. Expose for the highlights (i.e., don't lose them) and the shadows will take care of themselves 90% of the time -- unless you're photographing suede items, in which case "you can't get there from here."
Good luck!
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glassgrl
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posted on November 12, 2004 02:36:16 PM new
it just seems like that 90% of the things I photograph have white in them, and when I try to take out the background, a white board against white doesn't work. I was thinking the gray would be a good alternative.
I do see some backdrops on Ebay at a good price however.
I'll have to work on the light situation. It's just hard when you're so used to working with one light source to switch to another. I was using overhead florescent in the kitchen. I thought my ebay room would be bright enough but the flash keeps going off.
"It is only with the heart one sees rightly,
what is essential is invisible to the eye."
Antoine de Saint Exupery
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bizzycrocheting
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posted on November 12, 2004 02:41:20 PM new
glassgrl -- Going on my art training, a blue background would make white whiter. In other words, if you use a red lipstick with a blue tint to it, it would make your teeth look whiter. I'm wondering if the same thing goes for photography?? ...
Diane
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ltray
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posted on November 12, 2004 02:47:59 PM new
I try so many different things to get a good picture that I can never remember what worked best!
I love the photo you posted though. It makes that lucite lamp look like fine crystal.
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Japerton
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posted on November 12, 2004 03:15:51 PM new
This is hard because it casts color, whatever you choose, through the object.
I know PS will have the chops to answer this one, I await the sage...largely because if it can be done in PS Elements...I am on board!
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sanmar
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posted on November 12, 2004 03:32:41 PM new
I was told by a TV engineer that a medium blue works well. I tried it & have been using blue for almist everything. I have a glassed in porch which faces East. I get perfect light unless there are really dark clouds.
Life Is Too Short To Drink Bad Wine
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max40
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posted on November 12, 2004 03:43:22 PM new
I use 2 backgrounds. Both are felt. One black and one light blue. A yard of each is cheap, and easy to work with.
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ltray
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posted on November 12, 2004 03:56:26 PM new
Sanmar, you need to talk to MsLucy about apple skievr(sp?).....
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on November 13, 2004 01:01:52 PM new
Have I got a deal for you to solve all your white balance problems  Bid on my old camera, 3 days left...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3851305090&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
HEY! How do you insert links in this forum?
[ edited by cashinyourcloset on Nov 13, 2004 01:05 PM ]
[ edited by cashinyourcloset on Nov 13, 2004 03:36 PM ]
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tomwiii
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posted on November 13, 2004 01:38:26 PM new
The FIRST thing ya do is take the cash from yer closet and TRANSFER it into cash in Ralphie's pocket...
http://tinyurl.com/55yqy
like thusly...
[*url]theURLofYERlinkGOEShere[*/url]
REMOVE dem pesky stary whoes-ama-bobs!
FDR gave America THE NEW DEAL...
JFK gave America THE NEW FRONTIER...
DUBYA gives America...THE FINGER!
http://tinyurl.com/6jdv5
[ edited by tomwiii on Nov 13, 2004 01:39 PM ]
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niel35
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posted on November 13, 2004 02:09:52 PM new
hey Tom - I want to put my email in a link in my description in my listing. Do I use the same as you just described??
tnx
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sanmar
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posted on November 13, 2004 02:31:27 PM new
ltray; What should I say to MsLucy Re: abelskievers? Have I posted something in regards to them? I have one on eBay right now. Just bought a whole chest full of WWI uniforms. One Twill pants & jacket, one wool P & J, a pair of leg wraps, belt, cap & wool top coat. All were stored in a sealed box since 1930. Really in good condition considering at least 86 yrs. old.
Life Is Too Short To Drink Bad Wine
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tomwiii
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posted on November 13, 2004 02:51:19 PM new
niel:
Ralphie asks: "How's Topper?" and answers ye thusly:
<center><a href="mailto:YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS">E-MAIL ME</a></center>
BTW: Ralphie is a real fan of this guy:
http://www.eobcards.com/tutorial3.htm
FDR gave America THE NEW DEAL...
JFK gave America THE NEW FRONTIER...
DUBYA gives America...THE FINGER!
http://tinyurl.com/6jdv5
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Kevinatgrannys
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posted on November 13, 2004 02:58:33 PM new
Thanks tomwiii. I was looking for that yesterday and finally got tired of looking.
Kevin
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niel35
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posted on November 13, 2004 03:03:18 PM new
Tom - who is topper??
n
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niel35
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posted on November 13, 2004 03:10:48 PM new
Hey it worked! You're wonderful! I have been playing around with it for weeks trying to get my address in there. thanks so much.
n
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niel35
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posted on November 13, 2004 03:12:54 PM new
Oh, you mean Topping. he is long gone. Sorry Ralphie. Did some research on the reel tho and according to Simon somebody, it is worth 1200. now to find a buyer
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tomwiii
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posted on November 13, 2004 03:19:38 PM new
"Topper" ~ my favorite TV show as a kid...
http://tinyurl.com/6egs6
FDR gave America THE NEW DEAL...
JFK gave America THE NEW FRONTIER...
DUBYA gives America...THE FINGER!
http://tinyurl.com/6jdv5
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tomwiii
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posted on November 13, 2004 03:23:56 PM new
Niel was the Champagne guzzling St Bernard!
Not that I'm implying yer a dog -- just was running with a stream-of-consciousness bug I think I caught from Jack...
FDR gave America THE NEW DEAL...
JFK gave America THE NEW FRONTIER...
DUBYA gives America...THE FINGER!
http://tinyurl.com/6jdv5
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on November 13, 2004 03:37:42 PM new
Thanks Tom.
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ltray
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posted on November 13, 2004 11:28:45 PM new
Sanmar, you forgot to add abelskievers to your description. How can Ms Lucy find it ifn it donna say ABELSKIVER???
Uniforms sound cool!
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