posted on April 12, 2006 05:58:19 AM new
I the seller, sent Unpaid Item Reminder April 11. Later in the day I checked my item dispute, and to my shock it showed closed and No Final Value Credit. Reported this problem to Ebay and, and no response from them. Ebay just keeps on screwing the seller.
What do you think?
posted on April 12, 2006 06:16:54 AM new
Did your buyer tell Ebay he has paid and showed proof-like Paypal email or copy of payment etc??
/ lets all stop whining !! /
posted on April 12, 2006 06:50:49 AM new
It screws you in more ways than one. I filed an unpaid item dispute, the buyer replied something to the effect of "too darn bad" and then left me a negative. Because he had responded, no matter what the response was, eBay would not remove the neg. Bad business.
posted on April 12, 2006 07:21:40 AM new"...and then left me a negative. Because he had responded, no matter what the response was, eBay would not remove the neg."
The FEEDBACK FORUM and the UNPAID ITEM FORM have NOTHING to do with each other!
Not entirely true... if a bidder does not respond to an Unpaid Item dispute, then they can not leave feedback for the seller (yet, the seller can still leave feedback for them). It's one of the relatively new changes they've made...
posted on April 12, 2006 08:29:13 AM new
I cannot find THAT provision anyplace!
Unpaid Item Process:
Unpaid Items can usually be resolved by direct communication between buyers and sellers. eBay provides an online process enabling the buyer and seller to communicate with each other to resolve the situation. eBay's Unpaid Item policy and eBay's User Agreement make clear that buyers must pay for the items that they commit to purchase.
There are four steps to the Unpaid Item process.
1) Sellers can file an Unpaid Item Dispute.
Sellers can report an Unpaid Item up to 45 days after the transaction date (i.e. the date when the buyer commits to buying the item and the seller commits to selling it). Usually the seller must wait 7 days after a listing closes to file an Unpaid Item Dispute. However, in the following exceptional cases, the seller can file a dispute immediately:
At the time of the filing the buyer is no longer a registered user of eBay.
The seller and buyer wish to mutually withdraw from the transaction.
In the first case the buyer will receive an Unpaid Item strike and the seller will receive a Final Value Fee credit without any additional steps.
In the second case the seller must file the dispute for mutual withdrawal. If the buyer responds to the dispute and agrees, the seller will receive a Final Value Fee credit and no strike will be given to the buyer. If the buyer fails to respond, the seller can still close the dispute to receive a Final Value Fee credit, and the buyer will not receive an Unpaid Item strike.
File an Unpaid Item Dispute
See all my Unpaid Item Disputes
2) eBay contacts the buyer.
Once the seller files an Unpaid Item Dispute, eBay sends the buyer an email notification and displays a pop-up message if the buyer signs into eBay within 14 days of filing. The email and pop-up message will provide the following details:
Friendly reminder to pay. The email and pop-up message will remind the buyer that payment has not been received, along with simple instructions on how to respond or how to pay for the item. If the buyer does not respond to the email or pop-up message within 7 days, the seller may file for a Final Value Fee credit. The seller also becomes eligible for a free re-list credit.
Mutual agreement indication. If the seller indicates that a mutual agreement has been reached with the buyer not to complete the transaction, eBay will ask the buyer for confirmation through an email and pop-up message.
If the buyer confirms the seller's statement about mutual agreement not to complete the transaction, the buyer will not receive an Unpaid Item strike and the seller will receive a Final Value Fee credit.
If the buyer disagrees with the seller's statement on mutual agreement, the buyer will not receive an Unpaid Item strike and the seller will not receive a Final Value Fee credit. The dispute will be closed immediately after the buyer responds and the seller will not be eligible to re-file an Unpaid Item dispute for that transaction.
If the buyer does not respond to the email or pop-up message within 7 days then the seller will be able to close the dispute. The seller will receive a Final Value Fee credit and the buyer will not receive a strike.
3) Item Dispute Communication
The buyer is presented with several response options to communicate to the seller:
I want to pay now. Paying for the item will close the dispute. For listings where PayPal is available, the buyer just has to pay using PayPal to close the dispute. With other payment methods (such as checks or money orders), the seller is encouraged to wait until payment is received before choosing the appropriate option to close the dispute.
I already paid. If payment has already been made, the buyer may provide details of the payment to the seller for review. The seller can then choose the appropriate option to close the dispute.
Communicate with the seller. The buyer and seller can attempt to resolve the problem by communicating directly through the eBay Web site. eBay will provide a message area where the buyer and seller can communicate with each other without relying on email. The seller can close the dispute at any time by selecting the appropriate closure option.
4) Closing the dispute
The seller can close the dispute after the buyer has responded at least once, or if the buyer does not respond within 8 days. A seller can find all Unpaid Item disputes they have filed in their Dispute Console. The seller has several options to close the dispute:
We've completed the transaction and we're both satisfied. With this option, the seller does not receive a Final Value Fee credit and the buyer does not receive an Unpaid Item strike.
We've agreed not to complete the transaction. With this option, the buyer does not receive an Unpaid Item strike, the seller receives a Final Value Fee credit, and the item is eligible for a relist credit.
I no longer wish to communicate with or wait for the buyer. With this option, the buyer receives an Unpaid Item strike, the seller receives a Final Value Fee credit, and the item is eligible for a relist credit.
Note: A dispute can only be open for 60 days after the transaction date (i.e. the date when the buyer commits to buying the item and the seller commits to selling it). If the seller has not closed the dispute within 60 days, it will be automatically closed. When this automatic closure takes place the seller does not receive a Final Value Fee credit and the buyer does not receive an Unpaid Item strike.
Feedback and Unpaid Items
Buyers and sellers may leave feedback for each other on transactions involving Unpaid Items even if there was a mutual agreement not to complete the transaction. eBay encourages all users to leave appropriate feedback about their trading partners.
Unpaid Item strikes do not affect a user's feedback score or member profile
posted on April 12, 2006 08:37:52 AM new
Here Tom:
Losing Feedback Privileges
When a buyer does not respond to an Unpaid Item notification and the seller issues an Unpaid Item strike against them, the buyer can still leave a feedback comment, but the feedback rating they leave for the transaction will not appear and will not count toward the seller’s feedback score.
An eBay administrative note will appear under the feedback comment, explaining that the member did not participate in the Unpaid Item process.
Buyers should always respond to disputes opened within the Unpaid Item process. If you have resolved the situation outside of this process (for example, by making a payment by phone or email), please go back to the Dispute Console to enter a comment. Otherwise, you may lose your feedback privileges for that transaction.
Note: When an Unpaid Item dispute is closed automatically, the buyer will lose feedback privileges immediately. This happens when the buyer is no longer a registered user of eBay at the time of the Unpaid Item filing or is from a country to which the seller has indicated they will not ship.
That's the problem with eBay lately... they've been making so many policy changes, they can't update their pages fast enough... The announcement is in the link above, though.
posted on April 12, 2006 02:07:29 PM new
Back to the original post. Sounds like you didn't file your UPI properly. How about posting exactly how you did it so we can suggest how to file so you do get your fees back.
posted on April 12, 2006 02:18:43 PM new
Hi Stonecold613
All I did was send a Unpaid Item Reminder, did not do anything different. Next thing I see Ebay closed me out and No Credit giving. The email I sent to Ebay about this, I sill have not receive any answer. Can you figure!!!!
