posted on July 10, 2006 11:27:58 AM new
They all have chips or slight flaws in them. The first three are Fransiscan Earthenware, Desert Rose Pattern. A small pitcher with a small one eighth inch chip on the rim and two saucers, one with a one eighth inch chip and the other with a one half inch chip. The last is a Wallace China, Chuck Wagon pattern, oval serving bowl with a hairline crack.
I don't know if I should even bother listing them with the flaws that they all have and I have others with similar flaws or even worse. I think that people would only want items without flaws or natural use flaws like tiny surface scratches from being used would be okay. What do you think?
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[ edited by piinthesky on Jul 10, 2006 11:30 AM ]
posted on July 10, 2006 11:36:17 AM new
Desert Rose is one of the most common Franciscan patterns there is and the market is flooded with it. I wouldn't bother listing a piece in perfect condition, much less one with flaws, unless it were a large serving piece. The Wallace Chuck Wagon platter might surprise you. List it in the restaurantware category and fully describe the hairline.
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posted on July 10, 2006 11:51:00 AM new
Thanks for the info, Sparkz.
I may save the Desert Rose flawed stuff and the good stuff for my store if and when I ever get it opened.
I have sold quite a bit of the Wallace Chuck Wagon pattern, all in great condition and the pieces that really surprised me were the Footed Double Egg Cups. Darn things sold for around $80 each with multiple bids. I wish I had more of them. I'm down to just a few pieces of these with some having flaws and I don't know if I should even bother listing the ones with flaws.
ed; to clarify.
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posted on July 10, 2006 12:02:33 PM new
I generally agree with your assessment of these items, but I think I'd list the small pitcher (cream pitcher?) anyway. I'd describe it as a wonderful display piece, a sort of placeholder for the day when a perfect pitcher comes along. I'd start it low, about $5.00, and give it a try.
Sparkz, I know what you mean about the common Desert Rose pattern. Three years ago, though, I found three small, round Desert Rose trivets, got home and researched them and nearly fainted. The round ones sold for an average of $105 each, even one with a tiny chip on the bottom. It seems the round ones are rare; the square ones are common. Who knew?!!!
posted on July 10, 2006 12:13:49 PM new
I wouldn't bother with the Desert Rose on eBay at all. I used to be a Franciscan dealer and have bought and sold literally thousands of pieces of the stuff. Condition counts for everything unless you have, as Adele said, something out of the ordinary. In what you've showed us, you don't.
Too heavy to ship for someone who does shardware... If you sell at flea markets you might get 25 to 50 cents a piece. Put a small bouquet of fresh flowers in the milk jug and it'll sell.
I was at an estate sale this weekend where they had a set of Desert Rose priced at $1100. 95% of the pieces had damage, but only 50% had been set aside as damaged. People get dollar signs in their eyes and believe what they want to believe.
BTW and off-topic: All the TVs at this sale had FREE signs on them. Word to the wise: You are going to want to get rid of your old TVs soon. If they're functional you might get a few dollars now, but I'm thinking in a year or so they'll be completely worthless.
posted on July 10, 2006 12:23:41 PM new
Fransiscan Desert Rose is the most popular & most widely sold dish pattern ever made.
For this reason there is a set displayed in the Smithsonian Institute.
I have a set & many of the extras, I would have them all, but the unusual ones are too expensive. I love it, but don't use it, it's too heavy & chips very easily probably because it's like pottery.
It's very true that the common pieces go for next to nothing on eBay.
When I was a teenager my father bought me a set for my hope chest. Service for 8, 30.00!
posted on July 10, 2006 12:42:49 PM new
I guess i'll give the desert rose to my Mom. She fancies herself a dish freak and she'll love it.
I'm glad I posted this thread. Thanks all, for your input. Saved me alot of trouble and listing fees.
Fluff, why on the TV's, I dare ask. If they are changing the TV format industry-wide, i'll just give it up totally. Besides i'm tired of being lied to by all the bunko advertisers. Use this and it will grow hair with the first application or Jim has a new swelling of pride with his daily doseage of penis enlargment pills. Who do they think they are fooling with all of that?
posted on July 10, 2006 01:47:37 PM new
There are virtually no TV repair shops left anymore. TV's are considered "throw away" appliances, the same as VCR's became. It's cheaper to buy a new one than fix the old one. Also, in California, you get charged a haz mat fee to take them to the dump. If it still works, sell it for a dollar and consider yourself ahead of the game. If it doesn't work anymore, put it in the back of your pick-up, park in a dimly lit lot at a beer joint for a couple hours, and hope someone steals it.
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posted on July 10, 2006 02:19:56 PM new
Don't laugh, piinthesky. That's just what the lady was doing. An ancient console b/w TV -- looked like the CT had exploded or something inside -- and her only-slightly-less-ancient replacement on top of it.
posted on July 10, 2006 06:53:37 PM new
There will be convertors that allow you to continue to watch on your old TV, although most shows will have the dreaded black bars (top & bottom), and some will even have black bars on all 4 sides (it's stupid, I know, but there you go! I get them now on my 16:9 TVs when a 4:3 show sends out a movie trailer shot at 16:9).
I was an early convert to high definition, and it has been lots of fun. Don't ask me how much I spent getting an antenna that could get some of the first stations in NYC that transmitted high definition (the transmitters were on the WTC, so we know how that ended up).
It's so easy now, with HD DVRs from my cable provider for around $10 per month... takes the challenge out of it.
posted on July 11, 2006 11:20:13 PM new
Don't think I will ever have to worry about getting all HD format TVs, In my opinion it will be a long while before they change everything to HD format. IF I was on local cable which I am not our little town would be last place on earth to upgrade. LOL I have Dish network with the HD channel package that has 10 channels and 90% of time about 4 of those are no on air. I could get 25 HD channels but that would involve upgrading the dish getting a different local package and getting filters for all my non HD recievers at about 50$ a pop for 3 other recievers. The dish upgrade is free but the filters are not. They get you no matter what direction you go.
It sucks. I have talked to the cable co and they don't expect any upgrades for our town no HD offered with them at all even though some of the channels they broadcast is in HD. Jerks I tell ya Jerks! So you see I need not worry by time it does come I wll be too ancient to give a darn.
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posted on July 13, 2006 02:25:37 PM new
:: Here they ship the TV sets to Mexico,they need the parts.::
I find that one hard to believe. 90% of all TVs sold in the US are assembled in Mexico.
Somehow I don't think they suffer from a parts shortage.
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