posted on August 9, 2006 11:12:36 AM
I just looked at Ebay's offensive material prohibitions and still can't decide if this postcard will get pulled. Anyone have experience with this?
Note: The postcard is in horrendous condition - must have been salvaged from the garbage! But you never know - people do collect this stuff and sometimes condition isn't an issue.
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posted on August 9, 2006 11:26:20 AM
Yep, I got lot's of experience with Nazi items on ebay. As long as you make sure to put in your listing a large note to ebay that goes something like this you should be fine.
ATTENTION EBAY
The item for auction in this listing complies with ebay policy in reference to Nazi items. It is a philatelic item and therefore is a allowed item.
I once had alot of items pulled by ebay for Nazi swastika's. After inserting the above text block in large red type at the top of the listing they went through fine and I have used it ever since with no further problems. As long as it is a philatelic item that is. Being a post card it would qualify as a philatelic item of interest.
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posted on August 9, 2006 11:26:41 AMRalphie J. Shyster, Esq Counselor at the Bar{k} renders his expert opinion: "Probably"
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posted on August 9, 2006 11:37:23 AM
Loosely, wouldn't this be allowed as:
"Books and movies about WWII or Nazi Germany that do not contain propoganda, even if the Nazi symbol appears on the item" ?
It is anti-Nazi propaganda
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posted on August 9, 2006 11:40:26 AM
Hmm, looks like they changed the wording. At one time it stated something along the lines of "Nazi philatelic items are allowed". It's been a month or so since I sold a Nazi postal telegraph that was printed on heavy card stock and was covered with swastika's and Nazi logo's but that one went through without a hitch.
1 out of 4 people are mentally unbalanced. Take a look at your 3 closest friends. If they seem alright, you're the one! - Kyle Stubbins, CMS
posted on August 9, 2006 12:18:08 PM
I've sold matchbook covers with scurrilous stuff about Hitler, including swastikas, and "Kill the Japs" crap. I sold them in Collectibles/Militaria/WWII. No problems from the eBay gods.
posted on August 9, 2006 01:39:41 PM
This is a borderline item that would probably go through o.k. However, if one person is offended and reports it, there's a high likelihood it would be taken down.
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