pixiamom
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posted on February 15, 2008 07:02:05 PM new
Sellers should list all items at 99 cents with a high reserve. That would drive buyers and eBay nuts.
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rhpepsi
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posted on February 15, 2008 07:10:29 PM new
I think I found a better thing to do on the 20th....
Just got a call from our lovely TRUST & SAFETY department....
The listings were removed because they violated the eBay Keyword Spamming policy. The violation occurred when you included the following information in your listings:
In Title: LIKE NEW
hmmmm...while they were explaining it...a quick search of ebay came up with 8,542 items with those exact words in them. Along with another 1200 in stores....
Maybe on the 20th...create a new ID and just sit there and report all these KEYWORD SPAMMING items...
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pixiamom
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posted on February 15, 2008 07:30:01 PM new
That's a ridiculous pull, rhpepsi. On a side note, I took eBay's Keyword Spam Tutorial today; it was very enlightening. In the tutorial, eBay is more forgiving than I perceived.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on February 18, 2008 06:20:49 AM new
rhpepsi - I had the same thing happen but my item was a designer purse so I think the "like" was what cause the pull. "Like Kate Spade" would be pulled with good reason and if your item was a designer item - that could be why and not the "like new"
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rhpepsi
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posted on February 18, 2008 06:38:25 AM new
it was three stupid videos...used but NOT rentals and were actually LIKE NEW. Just one of the MANY eBay flaws in the system. 8,461 now that have that in the title, plus 1,239 in Express.
That is fine, I am real curious the results of these changes. I usually only have 100-200 auctions, but several thousand in the stores. So, this price "increase", basically CUT my fees in half! As for the back end, if I can maintain the 5% discount, it will cover the 2% increase. Plus, real close to the 15% discount, depending on how the feedback works out with the 30 dya rotation and previous REPEAT buyers.
As for elsewhere, I have been on Amazon for 3 years and may start using the auctions also. Plus the ecrater site(only just started that--hoping Google will move quick in the next few months).
So..eBay...enjoy! I responded to their email that it was REAL SIMPLE to list the videos over on Amazon...HAVE A NICE DAY! After listing them, I went back to eBay and reported 6 of the 8,000 LIKE NEW titles...just a little tit for tat....
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neglus
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posted on February 18, 2008 07:42:14 AM new
Sorry rtpepsi, but I can understand the pull. If I want to give a DVD (or any other non-collectible item) as a present , I do not want to look at 8500 "like new" items. I want a NEW one. A "new" search will bring up the "Like new" as well as the real "new" ones. Be creative - use "Mint" or something like that - just don't use the word NEW.
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 18, 2008 07:52:00 AM new
They've been pulling the "like new" listings for title keyword spamming for some time now. That others are still up and running doesn't mean anything. It's still a no-no.
It makes sense to me. People who are searching for "new" don't want to have to muddle through the "like new" listings. You can still use "like new" in the listing itself, just not the title.
Remember when sellers used "not" as a keyword in their titles? As in "Persian Vase Not Rug?" You hardly see that anymore because they cracked down hard.
Try "EUC" next time. Excellent Used Condition. They don't pull those and buyers seem to be catching on as to what it means.
[ edited by zippy2dah on Feb 18, 2008 07:53 AM ]
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 18, 2008 07:57:51 AM new
I'd like to see them do away with NWOT next. New without tags. That one is abused like crazy.
If you buy a piece of clothing at a thrift for resale, and it has no tags, it's not new. It doesn't matter if it looks new or smells new, it isn't NEW.
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rhpepsi
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posted on February 18, 2008 08:02:36 AM new
I don't really care about the pull of a few videos...it is the LACK OF consistency in eBays system and their "policing" of their OWN POLICIES. They got pulled because someone reported them, not because TRUST & SAFETY found them! If the TRUST & SAFETY department was DOING THEIR JOB...the 8,000+ would only be a few dozen!
I worry that this is going to continue into their policing of the feedback program also. Along with the PAYPAL "holding" of funds.
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 18, 2008 08:18:29 AM new
"They got pulled because someone reported them, not because TRUST & SAFETY found them!"
I don't understand why this is an issue.
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rhpepsi
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posted on February 18, 2008 08:24:39 AM new
Kind of like telling your local police officer that the car that just went by was speeding...hello?
the police sees it...knows it...but does NOTHING about it 'til someone points it out to them
[ edited by rhpepsi on Feb 18, 2008 08:25 AM ]
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 18, 2008 08:36:44 AM new
So what? They were still speeding.
Based on that analogy it appears you are assuming that T&S knew that you were keyword spamming but did nothing about it until another seller complained.
Do you really believe this is true? I don't.
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rhpepsi
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posted on February 18, 2008 08:49:24 AM new
Based on that analogy it appears you are assuming that T&S ...... can not type in LIKE NEW and do their jobs on the 8,000+ "speeders" because ...why?
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 18, 2008 09:00:40 AM new
T&S is notoriously understaffed and let's face it, they don't exactly seem to hire the cream of the crop to begin with.
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rhpepsi
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posted on February 18, 2008 09:10:34 AM new
....that was the only point I was trying to make...NEW RULES and regulations and NO ONE(or few) to adequately control and police them.
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pixiamom
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posted on February 18, 2008 09:18:23 AM new
That's the crux of it, isn't it? EBay isn't willing to invest in people to actually look at listings or arbitrate disputes, it relies on automated, artificial systems that are full of glitches and other members to "turn in" sellers they may have a conflict with.
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 18, 2008 09:19:55 AM new
Technically speaking, we are supposed to patrol ourselves and know what is and is not acceptable before we list.
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rhpepsi
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posted on February 18, 2008 09:22:35 AM new
Then I guess that 1st DSR star would ALWAYS be a 5(100%) and there would be no need for it.....
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 18, 2008 09:30:42 AM new
In an ideal eBay world, yes, there would be no need for any of the DSRs.
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 18, 2008 09:52:00 AM new
lol! Ebay also uses the traffic analogy in their explanation of why some things slip through the T&S cracks.
"eBay's Trust & Safety team reviews reports of items which violate our policies sent by eBay's community of users through our Community Watch program.
The sheer volume of new items put on the site every hour makes it impractical for eBay to review all listings or reported violations. With about 5 million new listings put on eBay sites each day, inevitably some violations go undetected.
Therefore, it's possible for 2 identical listings, each violating the same rule, to be treated differently. A member may report one item to us which we take down. eBay may never learn about the other one. This may seem unfair to the member whose listing was removed and we know that it's a frustrating experience . Like police officers enforcing speeding laws, though, there will always be those who get caught and "ticketed," and those who get away undetected. While it's frustrating to be the one caught - it doesn't excuse the speeding violation (and ticket). We will continue working to improve how we enforce our site policies."
I admit they should make the "like new" rule easier to find. I can't remember where I read about it first but it was some time ago and now I can't find the written rule that specifies "like new." I can only find the "like" in relation to brand names rule.
(In my ideal eBay world the confusing and marginally useful Help Pages would be COMPLETELY revamped.)
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annekila
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posted on February 18, 2008 12:06:23 PM new
I've had an auction canceled also because I use the words "like new". While I can understand a buyer becoming frustrated while looking for "new"....they could always used the advanced feature and put the word "like" in the "Exclude these words" space.
[ edited by annekila on Feb 18, 2008 12:08 PM ]
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on February 18, 2008 12:24:56 PM new
Sellers aren't allowed to make comparisons between items in a listing title. Examples of comparison words include but aren't limited to: "not", "like", "style", "-esque", "similar", "clone", "unmarked", "wannabe", "inspired", "compare to" and "look-alike".
Says nothing about brand names.
Those who are still confused should take the Search and Browse Manipulation tutorial:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/tutorial/searchandbrowseman/intro.html
It wasn't that hard to find.
fLufF
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Who are those batty old women and why are they wearing silly hats?.
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wagongang
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posted on February 23, 2008 07:52:05 PM new
Even easier ebay new, ebay used, Just like ebay motors.
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vintageads4u
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posted on February 24, 2008 06:24:10 AM new
However..I tried to relist FROM ebay an Ivory soap ad and I cannot because I am not an Ivory dealer.
So, somewhere in Codeland, there is a worm that will come out and grab your listing arbitrarily (this has been on ebay once) and PREVENT it from being relisted because it has the word Ivory in it.
It also has the words Soap Ad..and is listed in Collectibles, Advertising, Household, Soap.
PITA
Beth
Antique Ad Shop
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hwahwa
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posted on February 24, 2008 07:12:10 AM new
Anyone can sell ivory items,but not to overseas buyers.
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Lets all stop whining !
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vintageads4u
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posted on February 24, 2008 07:19:26 AM new
Well, I spent an hour yesterday and got the item kicked back to vendio as an error...can't sell Ivory.
Then tried to relist directly from ebay, can't sell Ivory so call me a liar but it wouldn't let me list it.
Tried again this am and no problem.
Beth
Antique Ad Shop
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amber
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posted on February 24, 2008 08:45:37 AM new
I use "like new" all the time in my auctions. I didn't know it was a no-no. I sell craft books, and some are quite old, but really are like new.I have had problems with "like", "similar to", but so far not from the phrases like new.
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MAH645
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posted on February 24, 2008 10:04:33 AM new
I have DVDs that come in loose in the case. We opened them to see if they are scratched and reseal them,even though they have never been played I list them as used. Most buyers feel that once a video or DVD is out of the plastic wrap it originally came in that is no longer new from the factory. To them it's used.
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