rhpepsi
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posted on May 27, 2008 03:55:01 AM
I was wondering if they were going to expand these. Today my dashboard DSR numbers are expanded to hundredths....4.78 4.82 etc.
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cblev65252
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posted on May 27, 2008 09:02:32 AM
Expanded, my shipping charge star is 4.77 instead of 4.8. Are they doing this to deny PS's their discounts?
Cheryl
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birgittaw
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posted on May 27, 2008 09:59:07 AM
One easy way to find out is to check your eligibility for whatever discount you pick. Rather, I think it's a tool to see if you're a high or low 4.8 and what the fractions actually mean. Ie. at risk, ready for the next level, hasn't moved much, etc.
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zoomin
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posted on May 27, 2008 10:39:56 AM
another foolish addition to the dsr bs.
Gotta LOVE that the power seller discount is set to trigger at 4.8 when the ebay averages for several categories is lower than that!
If I'm above the ebay 12 month average, shouldn't I get a discount?
Considering the 'law of averages' would dictate that the megasellers make up a GREAT portion of that eBaY seller average....
edit to add fyi:
eBaY 12 month averages:
as described 4.73
communication 4.68
shipping time 4.62
ship&handling 4.59
[ edited by zoomin on May 27, 2008 10:46 AM ]
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roadsmith
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posted on May 27, 2008 11:11:09 AM
I think it's rather insulting that eBay thinks we're all morons without the ability to figure out what they're up to.
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cblev65252
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posted on May 27, 2008 12:15:38 PM
zoomin - I agree! If you are above the eBay averages you should get the higher discount. If you are at the average, you should get the lower discount.
My 15% discount totaled all of $30 last month because I was only a PS for part of the month. However, I paid over $600 in fees last billing period.
Cheryl
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zoomin
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posted on May 27, 2008 12:27:16 PM
cheryl:
if only our opinion mattered...........
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mamachia
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posted on May 27, 2008 02:54:48 PM
Where is this dashboard??
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rhpepsi
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posted on May 27, 2008 03:57:59 PM
need to be one of those elite POWERSELLERS that get ALL those benefits that eBay offers...
---direct phone call response...(rather call Verizon...)
---POWERSELLER logo....like having a LOCAL POLICE sticker on your car
---SUPER Discounts....make more if I mow my neighbors lawn
---DAILY DASHBOARD....better marks and GRADING from my 5th grade teachers in Elementary school
---and the list goes on....
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zoomin
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posted on May 27, 2008 07:00:47 PM
the discount comes out to less than a tank of gas ~ the part that hurts GOOD sellers (yes, ABOVE AVERAGE Sellers) is the SEARCH!!!
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rhpepsi
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posted on May 27, 2008 07:37:34 PM
with the search....
are you selling "unique" items or MASS PRODUCED items...
if your selling niagara falls postcards(1,000s of results)...
compared to;
methodist church newton postcard(12 results)
I think it is a matter of "supply & demand"...you try to sell the current Lego or iPod and you are affected by the search status...sell unique items and you are good to go.
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toolhound
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posted on May 28, 2008 04:29:02 AM
To find your Dashboard go to my eBay Summary on left near the bottom is my account. It is listed in that section.
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neglus
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posted on May 28, 2008 05:46:30 AM
I think it is a matter of "supply & demand"...you try to sell the current Lego or iPod and you are affected by the search status...sell unique items and you are good to go.
Not necessarily. It seems that the new policy regarding multiples of the same items listed by the an individual seller has been interpreted to mean that no more than 10 of a seller's items using the buyer's search keywords will be displayed. It still is not clear whether the limit is 10 per page or 10 per search results.
If the buyer searches for "Los Angeles Postcard" and I have 82 postcards using those key words in the title (82 unique postcards but all have those words in the title), the buyer would only see 10 of them. Similarly, if buyer searches for "silver earrings" , "Sinatra CD", "automobile ad", "silk scarf", "depression glass" "crochet pattern book"....you get the picture. Here is a thread on the Stores board about this:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=2000571220&start=0
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
[ edited by neglus on May 28, 2008 06:59 AM ]
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on May 28, 2008 06:41:42 AM new
Neglus,
Thanks for sharing that link... it looks like there are some (rightfully so) very angry sellers out there right now. If I was still selling my ads on eBay, I'd be furious too. They just don't get it, do they? I don't see how this is good for buyers either. With high speed access... it doesn't take that long to look through even 100 pages of results. I collect disney comics. I like to periodically run a search for disney comics. Then... I like to either filter the results (using the category links) or... I just look at all the listings. Bottom line, though... is I want to see EVERYTHING available... in case there's any good deals out there! If I can't see them, I don't know what to buy!
eBay would be much better off at improving their filtering systems for search results, rather than creating an arbitrary system that randomly shows limited results. But, I don't think they even care anymore about sellers. They hit their peak a couple of years ago, tried to hang on... and now they're at the start of a long crash down. I'm just glad I got off in time. (now if my remaining photography accessory inventory would just sell quicker... I could be completely gone!... I can't wait!)
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rhpepsi
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posted on May 28, 2008 06:57:09 AM new
Neglus,
Here is a good example of what I was trying to say...using your own products.
item numebr 160124953669....
When I punch in International Falls Mn, I get a few (not too many) results. 4 Auctions - 50 out of 59 Store items. It just happens that your item number doesn't show. But if I were to search with a little more detail(uniqueness) - International Falls Mn MAIN STREET...yours is the ONLY choice.
Even if there are a lot of new buyers out there...searching by category or "small" description (I think) are long gone. Reason being is that there are TOO MANY results, and you end up "filtering" by adding those KEY words. Why would I want to look through 884 MINNESOTA postcards when I just want one of MAIN STREET INTERNATIONAL FALLS MN?
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on May 28, 2008 07:02:16 AM new
Rhpepsi,
Why? Well... the reason is when you have bidders doing broad searches when they WANT to get broad results.
Take my Disney Comics as an example. I buy them partly for my collection / partly as an investment. I know how to identify them and when they are listed under market value. When I do a search for "disney comics" I want to see every single comic that is currently available, so that I CAN DECIDE ON MY OWN which ones are worth buying and which ones are not. If I don't see all the comics... I'm missing out on opportunities to purchase what COULD be deals. And keep in mind... to the best of my knowledge eBay's NOT making it clear to the bidders that their results are being limited in any fashion.
It's a really bad decision...
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neglus
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posted on May 28, 2008 07:04:59 AM new
rh pepsi - I get what you are saying but a postcard collector, unless he collects "main streets", is not likely to search using those keywords. Postcard collecting is not scientific and involves a lot of browsing - I think the point is collectors don't MIND browsing through 884 results (a quick scan down a page looking at the gallery will suffice) to find what interests them. They would much prefer seeing all 884 results than seeing a handful.
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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rhpepsi
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posted on May 28, 2008 07:13:06 AM new
eauctionmgnt...
I am NOT agreeing that what they did was right with the search results. All I was trying to say is that if you are a seller;
selling unique - UNCOMMON - NON-MASS PRODUCED - items, you do not have to worry about your search results. Tom has scales that VERY few (maybe one or two others) out there have on eBay....Bill has UNIQUE stamps that no-one else has out there. These guys are not gonna be affected by the LOWER (in the red) SEARCH STATUS. NEGLUS, YOU, and myself(certain categories) will greatly be affected by them...whether it's ADs or POSTCARDs, etc.
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on May 28, 2008 07:22:05 AM new
Even sellers with unique items still are going to have difficulty with these search results. Take Tom's scales... If I just do a search for scales... all of Tom's should show up. Then, I can take a look at all the results... and if I WANT I can borrow some keywords from that general search set, and create a more specific search using keywords to narrow down my original search. Or, if I prefer, I can just look at everything that came back... but it's MY choice.
Its forcing buyers to do more work by requiring them to KNOW the more specific keywords.... and worse yet... eBay's not really telling them that they need to be using more specific keywords. Bidders are going to make the assumption that eBays search will work like every other search on the net... and return all the results! Google is a hugely successful search engine... but it returns searches with 100's of thousands of results. Does it have it's critics? Sure! Is it successful? Absolutely! eBay has something in place that is already working.... they're "breaking" it because they feel it is an innovative disruption. I disagree. I think it's going to do irreversible harm to sellers and bidders. It's bad enough that eBay has forced a fairly steady stream of sellers to leave eBay for better venues. I think this one's gonna cause the bidders to leave too. Just not a smart move any way you look at it.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on May 28, 2008 09:41:42 AM new
they feel it is an innovative disruption.
They're half-right.
Come to think of it, since they bought Half, just about everything has been half-assed.
I could be onto something here.
fLufF
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The prettiest Czechoslovakian jewelry you ever did see! Hurry, before it's gone.
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kozersky
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posted on May 28, 2008 11:29:45 AM new
eauctionmgnt - I like the example that you give as a problem with the new search.
You should write a letter to ebay giving your personal experience with the new search, and the problems you have encountered when using Best Match.
Bill K-
William J Kozersky Stamp Co.
William J Kozersky Stamp Co. Book Store
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roadsmith
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posted on May 28, 2008 12:06:28 PM new
Will it make a difference if a buyer/collector has what he wants on permanent search, coming into his e-mail every day?
I have "Idyllwild" on permanent search and get between 1 and 4 new ones in my e-mail each day. If that does NOT filter out all but 10, a buyer would be smart to put what he's looking for on permanent search.
On the other hand, if what comes in my e-mail isn't the entirety of Idyllwild new items that day, I'm bummed.
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wgonzales
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posted on May 28, 2008 03:13:57 PM new
Thanks, Neglus, for the link to that enlightening thread.
Holy crow!
I had thought that eBay was referring to 10 identically worded titles.
I sell many different types of quartz crystals. Naturally the words "quartz crystal" are in all my titles since these words are the generic search words.
From looking at the search word reports, I know that many buyers use only those two words to start the search.
So this means that 10 of my quartz crystals will show up in search, but not the others unless the search is refined by "Tibetan Quartz Crystal" or "Lemurian Quartz Crystal".
Oh dear even that won't work...I have 17 Lemurian Quartz Crystals listed.
This is very distressing...no other way to describe a quartz crystal other than as a quartz crystal and still have it be a searchable item...but wait...they won't all be searchable because...!
Neither buyers nor sellers win in this vicious circle...
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mamachia
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posted on May 28, 2008 07:50:14 PM new
OK, Thank you, Rhpepsi, I found the Dashboard, earlier but now it is gone.
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