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 glassgrl
 
posted on October 9, 2010 05:54:37 PM new
Does anybody know anything about this? I found the pattern on eBay - item 330480508691

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330480508691&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

It's a cheese keeper? dish? that looks like this: 170542156070 but with the other pattern

http://cgi.ebay.com/LARGE-VINTAGE-IRONSTONE-CHEESE-DISH-PERFECT-CONDITION-/170542156070?pt=UK_PotteryPorcelain_Glass_PotteryPorcelain_China_SM&hash=item27b51ac926

I Googled it and found something that had been sold at 1stDibs in the same pattern and it said it was Early 19th Century. No price as to what it sold for.

http://georgicacreek.1stdibs.com/store/furniture_item_detail.php?id=41829

If you Google Early 19th Century it says 1800 to 1850.

I'd like to sell it but for what? It's in mint condition. I've been searching all afternoon.



 
 amber
 
posted on October 9, 2010 06:51:49 PM new
It is a jug and bowl that was a feature in every bedroom in England in the early days before houses had running water. I had a couple of relatives who only had outside plumbing, and when we stayed with them,they would fill the jug with hot water every morning for the occupants of the bedroom to wash. There was usually a matching chamber pot.
Royal Doulton made many of these, and the commodes would be richly decorated with blue and white on the inside.

The other auction is for a cheese dish. When I was growing up in England, cheese came in big "wheel" shapes, and the grocer cut off a wedge or pie shaped piece, which is why the cheese dish is shaped that way.

 
 glassgrl
 
posted on October 9, 2010 07:25:05 PM new
I have the cheese dish. But I can't find one anywhere in the STAFFORDSHIRE IRONSTONE pattern on the internet in that shape. I see a round one but not that oblong one.

 
 otteropp
 
posted on October 9, 2010 11:20:36 PM new
Oooops...I was giving you erroneous information!
[ edited by otteropp on Oct 9, 2010 11:24 PM ]
 
 ebabestreasures
 
posted on October 10, 2010 05:28:20 AM new
Did you try Replacements? I typically take their price and cut it in half.

 
 max40
 
posted on October 10, 2010 07:00:33 AM new
The pitcher and bowl that has the same pattern as your cheese keeper LOOKS like a modern reproduction to me. They had a revival in the mid-70's and many pieces were made.
It would help if you posted pictures of your cheese keeper, showing different views and including a picture of the base.

 
 otteropp
 
posted on October 10, 2010 09:52:05 AM new
max....that is what I posted too and then deleted it but I will throw the info in here in case it helps.

I have a Pitcher here in my own collection that has an almost identical backstamp. It is a very phony looking flow-blue backstamp with 'Victoria Ware'.
I bought this knowing it was a repro but it worked with my collection.

Here is one example 260673301461

Scroll down on this one to see the backstamp that I have that I know is a repro 260673321490

 
 otteropp
 
posted on October 10, 2010 09:55:25 AM new
Here's a link to my favourite pottery site page that shows my backstamp!

http://www.thepotteries.org/fake/index.htm

 
 glassgrl
 
posted on October 10, 2010 11:01:02 AM new
Sigh. I guess it could be fake. My flowers are not as "crisp" as the one from 1stDibs.

Here are the photos







 
 glassgrl
 
posted on October 10, 2010 05:59:07 PM new
well I tried to join the eBay Pottery board and I got the invitation but I'm stuck in the loop - it just keeps me signing in - and in and in and I never get to the board.

So - is this a fake back stamp? I collect blue and white so it's not a big deal - I'm only out $5.00.





 
 otteropp
 
posted on October 10, 2010 07:37:08 PM new
In my totally unprofessional opinion backed only by my years also collecting transferware and reading many books and websites......YES!


BUT...it is very pretty and would look super in a collection of blue & white just like my fake pitcher does!

[ edited by otteropp on Oct 10, 2010 07:38 PM ]
 
 
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