posted on July 30, 2001 11:52:30 AM new
Oh, it's not as bad as all that. State and local authorities aren't affected by the law other than by the fact that they will do without a federal handholding.
"Local district attorneys do not have the McDade law holding their feet to the fire. But most police agencies prefer to have a prosecutor overseeing complex investigations. "The federal agencies are now not willing to look at our cases if they involve any kind of undercover activity," said Lt. Gary Stafford of the Portland Police Bureau's drug and vice division".
posted on July 30, 2001 11:52:56 AM new
It's a drag about the child porn ring, but as far as I'm concerned the money we're pi**ing away on the War on Drugs could be much better spent.
posted on July 30, 2001 11:58:02 AM new
Yes sadie, thats the main part that bugged me.... the war on drugs, your right about that... the only reason I put the 'Drug Dealers moving to Or' in was to get the attention.
I should have put more emphasis on the child pornagraphy investigation thats been dropped.
posted on July 30, 2001 12:01:21 PM new
Oh, I don't know, if its a major drug operation, I believe the state and local authorities do need that federal handholding
posted on July 30, 2001 12:35:16 PM new
This prevents them going out and basically testing people to see if they can be induced to commit a crime when they are not actually seeking the opportunity. That sort of entrapment stinks and they are not above making a crime up where none was actually happening. Do you want peopel "tested" to make sure they can not be induced to commit a crime? They can offer big bucks and make it pretty hard to turn down. How about putting prostitutes out there to make sure nobody will accept an offer? Or false businessmen offering bribes to offficials? It's dirty.
posted on July 30, 2001 01:05:42 PM new
Gravid, yes that happens, I do believe that happens.
And the FBI has suspended a child-pornography investigation developed by undercover agents and halted the use of cooperating witnesses in at least two major drug cases, three extortion cases and a major white-collar crime investigation
Ok maybe they were trying to intice them into these crimes...testing them, yeah
Maybe bad, but not so bad as what local and state CPS (child protective services) do on their own accord everyday to families. Taking children on false charges, later to be learned false, later kids returned, after being in foster homes, and screwing them up. And this is on all local levels.
posted on July 30, 2001 01:16:57 PM new
The state agencies are just whining because they'll have to pay for those operations themselves. They're looking for a public outcry.
The cases will continue, but not with federal aid. Isn't that a republican ideal? Leave state government to the state.
posted on July 31, 2001 07:42:42 AM new
What gravid just said, was the point that I was going to make. Oregon Bar ethics laws mean honesty in practicing law enforcement. If that hinders existing forms of law enforcement, then that's good, because we don't want dishonest investigations and wrongfully indicted citizens. It's not right for law enforcement officials to commit crimes themselves in order to catch criminals. I guess the Feds will just have to rethink how to go about practicing law enforcement in Oregon -- chiefly, in an honest manner.
posted on July 31, 2001 03:06:15 PM new
Totally agree with somebody up there. I've been to many rock concerts and the cops are there, dressed up like hippies, pestering concert-goers to sell them a joint. This is where tax dollars go?
posted on July 31, 2001 05:48:48 PM new
Or like we had here a couple years ago - The cop undercover on a morals investigation said he just had to allow the prostitute to give him oral sex or she would have known he was a cop and blown the whole investigation. (Pun was unintended.)The things these poor officers have to do in the line of duty is amazing. In fact they are unbelievable.
