posted on July 3, 2002 01:34:32 AM
Sen. Robert C. Byrd, D-W.Va., gave a major
speech Friday, urging the Senate to play a
central role in determining whether the nation
will initiate military action against Iraq or any
other nation.
Byrd criticized the Bush administration for
“saber-rattling” and “unwise and dangerous
effort to keep the public and Congress largely
in the dark. ...”
“Shrouded in ambiguity and cloaked in deep
secrecy, this administration continues to
suddenly, and sometimes unexpectedly, drop
its decisions upon the public and Congress,
and expect obedient approval, without
question, without debate, and without
opposition.”
posted on July 3, 2002 09:22:41 AM
When Byrd Goes he will be Deeply Missed by Hard-Core Democrats....He's Ancient, But Still Tries to do the Right things for The Country. He's Also awake most of the Time when Congress is in Session...unlike some of his opponents.
posted on July 3, 2002 10:03:29 AM"Passed after the carnage of Vietnam, the War Powers Resolution requires the president to "consult with Congress before" sending US military forces into combat."
"This administration refuses to consult with anyone outside its own inner circle about what appears to be its plan for imminent hostilities. This administration convenes meetings of its trusted few in little underground rooms. ...
>>FINALLY!!<<, someone from the Democratic Party is stepping up to the Plate to take a swing with the Bat! It's about Gawd Damned Time, too! The above quote illustrates Bush's illegal prosecution of this so-called "War". If the Senate steps in to over-see Bush's activities, that will spell the end of this Reign of Terror that Bush is perpetrating upon the American People. We've had *ENOUGH* violating our Constitutional Rights! We've had *ENOUGH* Republicans raiding our economy and trashing it! We've had *ENOUGH* of Bush and his Cronies stealing all of the taxpayer's money! We've had *ENOUGH* of this bastion of LIES and DECEIT coming from the White House to the American People!
Now, if only more Democrats would get some BALLS as well, we'd be on our way to getting rid of this Monster from power!
posted on July 3, 2002 11:22:44 AM
There USED to be Republicans who felt the same way.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
posted on July 3, 2002 01:35:11 PM
Remember when we discussed this war powers issue before and I said that the Pres has wide latitude as long as Congress goes along ?
Well it's begining to look like Congress may be getting ready to pull the rug out from under GW and crew.
The Dems should all be turning the heat up for the Fall elections.
But they must be extremely cautious in their rhetoric, and they know it. If they start criticising the arrests of aliens, narrowing of civil rights, and the prosecution of the "war", and we are attacked again, GW and the Reps will sweep the elections and public opinion.
posted on July 3, 2002 02:26:26 PM
Back when Lincoln was doing preetty much the same thing he had 28,00 people in prison with habeous corpus set aside and armed troops around the capitol with fixed bayonets.
The Congress was afraid to say anything. He had warrents out for the Chief Justice of the Supreme court for saying he had oversteoppped his powers!
posted on July 3, 2002 02:54:26 PM
The system works very much like the "King in Parliment" of the British - if the King and Parliment go along, there is not much that can oppose their will.
In the US there is of course a written constitution. Unless there is an explicit offence to the constitution, there is not much a court can do if the branches are operating within their ennumerated powers.
I also do not think a court will define or defend the prospects whether we are at "war or in revolt or in danger". That too would be declined as a political question to be answered by Congress and the President. Otherwise, we would have to visit all three branches of govt to prosecute a war and hope that they all agree. It would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis if the courts took up the question.
posted on July 3, 2002 03:57:59 PM
That would be a serious mess.
For the first century or so, they were all testing the workings of the document. Many of the cases that got to the supreme court had to do specifically with which branch could do what and how much. When Lincoln suspended habeus corpus that was very much the situation. You like to hope that these various conflicts have been resolved but small changes continue to come up which require new rulings. It's just boring though when old issues are brought back to the fore when the president hasn't had his pablum.
posted on July 4, 2002 02:07:46 PM"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
-Thedore Roosevelt (1918)---
KRS, that was back when being a Republican might have been something to be proud of. Back then, they were Pro-America/American in all things and would go to *WAR* the instant anyone tried to mess with the U.S. Constitution or Bill of Rights. How sad it is that things have changed so dramatically for the once-proud party of Lincoln. These days, the party is filled with neo-fascist multi-national corporate interests and religious hooligans of ever far-fringe stripe and caliber bent upon destroying the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights and enslaving the American Population by stealing all of their wealth for their own pockets. That decent people continue to support such pure criminality is a shame and a reminder to all of us just how naive and stupid people can be to believe anything that they are told by these clowns from hell.
posted on July 19, 2002 12:43:02 AM
Proud of Teddy Roosevelt did you actually say that ?
I think you might need to read more.
That son of a ditch called the New york street car operators communists because they wanted to strike. they worked 14 a day 7 a week they did nt want more money just a day off.
You want to talk about fascists ? there he was the ultimate proto fascist. Makes Bush look like a pathetic amateur.
it was greedy parasites like him that gave rise and limited credibility to the marxist movement.it was this gang that set up the irs and the banking system.
Heres some words to help you understand
sweatshop tenement company store filth repression
you really need to more thouroughly research some of the things you come up with.
