posted on March 18, 2005 07:27:08 PM new
Senators Ask Feeding Tube Be Reinserted
Updated 10:02 PM ET March 18, 2005
By MITCH STACY
PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) - With a furious legal and political battle raging outside her hospice room, doctors removed Terri Schiavo's feeding tube Friday after a judge rebuffed an unprecedented attempt by Congress to keep the brain-damaged woman alive.
Schiavo, 41, could linger one to two weeks without the tube, provided no one intercedes and gets it reinserted _ as happened twice before. Late Friday, a House committee filed an emergency request at the U.S. Supreme Court, asking justices to reinsert Schiavo's feeding tube while the committee files appeals in the lower courts to have its subpoenas recognized.
Republicans on Capitol Hill used their subpoena power to demand that Schiavo be brought before a congressional hearing, saying removing the tube amounted to "barbarism." The attorney for Schiavo's husband shot back at a news conference, calling the subpoenas "nothing short of thuggery."
"It was odious, it was shocking, it was disgusting, and I think all Americans should be very alarmed about that," George Felos said.
The judge presiding over the case ruled in the husband's favor early Friday afternoon and rejected the request from House attorneys to delay the removal, which he had previously ordered to take place at 1 p.m. EST. Felos said Michael Schiavo was at his wife's side shortly after the tube was disconnected.
The removal of the tube signals that an end may be near in a decade-long family feud between Schiavo's husband and her devoutly Roman Catholic parents, Bob and Mary Schindler. The parents have been trying to oust Michael Schiavo as their daughter's guardian and keep in place the tube that has kept her alive for more than 15 years.""""
Now, the GD repugs want to use this woman for political grandstanding. It's a good thing that poor woman doesn't know how they are invading her privacy and life.
Would YOU want politicians taking away YOUR right to die? Invading the sacredness of MARRIAGE ??????????????? To take away the husband's legal rights!
They OBVIOUSLY have NO respect for the bonds of matrimony!
posted on March 18, 2005 08:19:37 PM new
Why should she die? Who should give the order of death?
House GOPs Want Feeding Tube Reinserted
54 minutes ago U.S. National - AP
By MITCH STACY, Associated Press Writer
PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - With a furious legal and political battle raging outside her hospice room, doctors removed Terri Schiavo's feeding tube Friday after a judge rebuffed an unprecedented attempt by Congress to keep the brain-damaged woman alive.
Schiavo, 41, could linger one to two weeks without the tube, provided no one intercedes and gets it reinserted — as happened twice before. Late Friday, the House committee that issued the subpoenas filed an emergency request at the U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites), asking justices to reinsert Schiavo's feeding tube while the committee files appeals in the lower courts to have its subpoenas recognized.
Republicans on Capitol Hill used their subpoena power to demand that Schiavo be brought before a congressional hearing, saying removing the tube amounted to "barbarism." The attorney for Schiavo's husband shot back at a news conference, calling the subpoenas "nothing short of thuggery."
"It was odious, it was shocking, it was disgusting, and I think all Americans should be very alarmed about that," George Felos said.
The judge presiding over the case ruled in the husband's favor early Friday afternoon and rejected the request from House attorneys to delay the removal, which he had previously ordered to take place at 1 p.m. EST. Felos said Michael Schiavo was at his wife's side shortly after the tube was disconnected.
Meanwhile, Republican congressional leaders said in a statement that they planned to work through the weekend to try to save Terri Schiavo's life.
The removal of the tube signals that an end may be near in a decade-long family feud between Schiavo's husband and her devoutly Roman Catholic parents, Bob and Mary Schindler. The parents have been trying to oust Michael Schiavo as their daughter's guardian and keep in place the tube that has kept her alive for more than 15 years.
Michael Schiavo says his wife told him she would not want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents dispute that, saying she could get better and that their daughter has laughed, cried, smiled and responded to their voices. Court-appointed physicians testified her brain damage was so severe that there was no hope she would ever have any cognitive abilities.
Michael Schiavo was at his wife's side shortly after the tube was removed, Felos said.
"This is what Terri wanted. This is her wish," the husband said late Friday, making his first comments after the tube removal on CNN's "Larry King Live." He said he was angry that "government has just trampled all over my personal life."
The family is still hoping for a long-shot legal victory to have the tube re-inserted.
It is unclear how much time the family will have. The effects of such feeding tubes being removed can be seen by the third or fourth day, when the patient's mouth begins to look dry and the eyes appear sunken. From days five to 10, respiration becomes irregular with periods of very fast and then very slow breathing. By the final days, kidney function declines, toxins begin accumulating in the body, and multiple organ systems fail from lack of nutrition.
Court-appointed doctors have said Schiavo will not feel any pain given her state, but her parents' doctors dispute that.
Several right-to-die cases across the nation have been fought in the courts in recent years, but few, if any, have been this drawn-out and bitter.
The case has garnered attention around the world and served as a rallying cry for conservative Christian groups and anti-abortion activists, who flooded members of Congress and Florida legislators with messages seeking to keep Schiavo alive.
Outside Schiavo's hospice, about 30 people keeping vigil dropped to their knees in prayer when word spread of the judge's ruling calling for removal of the tube.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan said President Bush (news - web sites) discussed the case with his brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, and members of the state's congressional delegation during his swing through Florida on Friday to discuss Social Security (news - web sites) reform.
"We're continuing to monitor developments," McClellan said. "The president believes when there are serious questions or doubts in a case like this that the presumption ought to be in favor of life."
Gov. Jeb Bush said the judge's decision "breaks my heart" and noted that it often takes two decades for a death row inmate's appeals to go through the system.
"There's this rush to starve her to death," Bush said.
But Rep. Henry Waxman (news, bio, voting record) of California, senior Democrat on the Government Reform Committee, called the subpoenas a "flagrant abuse of power" and said they amounted to Congress dictating the medical care Terri Schiavo should receive.
"Congress is turning the Schiavo family's personal tragedy into a national political farce," Waxman said.
Schiavo suffered severe brain damage in 1990 when a chemical imbalance apparently brought on by an eating disorder caused her heart to stop beating for a few minutes. She can breathe on her own, but has relied on the feeding and hydration tube to keep her alive.
Both sides accused each other of being motivated by greed over a $1 million medical malpractice award from doctors who failed to diagnose the chemical imbalance.
The Schindlers also said that Michael Schiavo wants their daughter dead so he can marry his longtime girlfriend, with whom he has young children. They have begged him to divorce their daughter, and let them care for her.
The tangled case has encompassed at least 19 judges in at least six different courts.
In 2001, Schiavo went without food and water for two days before a judge ordered the tube reinserted when a new witness surfaced.
When the tube was removed in October 2003, her parents and two siblings frantically sought intervention from Gov Jeb. Bush to stop her slow starvation. The governor pushed through "Terri's Law," and six days later the tube was reinserted.
That set off a new round of legal battles which culminated in September 2004 with the Florida Supreme Court (news - web sites) ruling that Bush had overstepped his authority and declared the law unconstitutional.
The U.S. Supreme Court has been unwilling to hear arguments in the case.
On Feb. 25, Circuit Judge George Greer gave Michael Schiavo permission to order the removal of the feeding tube Friday.
"I have had no cogent reason why the (congressional) committee should intervene," Greer told attorneys in a conference call Friday, adding that last-minute action by Congress does not invalidate years of court rulings.
The attorney for the parents said he would likely file a new appeal early next week with a federal appeals court. He also said he hoped lawmakers in Washington or Tallahassee could agree on legislation that would force the tube to be reinserted. Similar efforts have failed in the past.
"I'm hopeful these men and women can get a strategy, get a focus, because we're running out of time," said attorney David Gibbs.
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posted on March 18, 2005 08:23:27 PM new
Now you are taking the word of a husband who has a girlfriend and young children over a women who cannot communicate to anyone. If the women wanted to die then she should have signed the right to life papers.
I guess you are in favor of a Dr. Kovorkian type of demise but with this one it is going to take two weeks. How would you like to starve to death?
Even you can't be that bad crowfarm.
The only reason there is no divorce is because of a million dollar suit. Money talks right crowfarm.
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posted on March 18, 2005 09:28:43 PM new
Anyone who might be interested in having their voice of support for saving Terri's life heard....you can email those involved from this site. http://www.cfra.info/213/petition.asp?RID=3527070
There are also numbers you can call to join those who feel life is too precious to let any judge or a long-estranged husband murder anyone by starvation.
I hope you'll consider supporting her family in saving her life.
posted on March 18, 2005 09:40:45 PM new
'Another wife'
Bobby Schindler told WND he's astonished Schiavo has been allowed to remain as Terri's guardian while having, de facto, another wife.
"Michael claims he loves Terri, and he has said it on numerous occasions, but he treats her in a way I don't think most of us would treat our own pets," Schindler said.
Among the family's complaints are that Michael Schiavo:
Has not allowed therapy or rehabilitation since 1992, despite medical records indicating Terri is responsive.
Has prevented swallowing tests or swallowing therapy since 1993, despite medical testimony Terri can be taught to eat.
Ordered caretakers not to clean Terri's teeth since 1995, resulting in removal of five teeth in April 2004.
Placed Terri in hospice in 2000, despite the fact she is not terminally ill.
Refuses to allow Terri to leave her room. She has not been outside since 2000.
Has refused to fix her wheelchair since 2000.
Refuses to allow Terri to practice her Catholic faith by attending weekly mass.
Ordered Terri's shades down at all times.
Ordered doctors not to treat Terri when she had a life threatening infection in 1993 and 1995.
Removes family pictures from Terri's room, denies flowers from family and friends, denies certain CDs to be played for Terri, and refuses to allow her to listen to music with headphones.
Refuses to release medical information to parents since 1993 despite court order requiring him to do so.
Has limited the visitors list, requiring they must first be approved by him and removes visitors at own discretion. Schiavo removed the Schindlers from the visitors list a total of eight months between 2001 and 2004.
Denies all requests for Terri to attend nursing home functions and refuses to allow therapeutic animals to visit with her, knowing that she is an animal lover.
Imo, the above is NOT the way you treat someone you love.
The article continues
"If it is removed, it will inaugurate a dangerous social policy concerning a severely disabled person's right to live, a policy founded on irrational fears of disability," she said.
Tada said the "individual liberties of severely disabled Americans--especially their right to life--would be inextricably tied to the whims of a guardian who may not have their best interest at heart."
posted on March 18, 2005 10:07:49 PM new
Blathering from the far right L sisters.
Who, I guess , unlike the spoutings of right wing politicians, want MORE government interference in our lives. Want to butt into our own deaths.
Want to break the law.
"""On Feb. 25, Circuit Judge George Greer gave Michael Schiavo permission to order the removal of the feeding tube Friday.
"""I have had no cogent reason why the (congressional) committee should intervene," Greer told attorneys in a conference call Friday, adding that last-minute action by Congress does not invalidate years of court rulings. """
AND,""""The president believes when there are serious questions or doubts in a case like this that the presumption ought to be in favor of life." """
When bush was governor of Texas he didn't give a rat's ass about serious questions or doubts about the guilt or innocence of the people he put to death .
What a slimey hypocrite!
You two are such sheep...hopping on your leader's bandwagon every time he snaps his fingers.
You're ever so worried about one life here and don't give a damn about the thousands lost for no reason in Iraq..........well, people who worship slimey hypocrites ...birds of a feather...........
[ edited by crowfarm on Mar 18, 2005 10:14 PM ]
[ edited by crowfarm on Mar 18, 2005 10:19 PM ]
posted on March 18, 2005 10:29:16 PM new
Terri's case HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN the same Federal review that every convict on death row receives. Period......and she has done nothing...committed no crime...etc.
She's just in her husbands way...and rather than divorcing her...he wants her dead.
Nice man....one I'm sure you'd love to have as yours.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Four More Years....YES!!!
posted on March 18, 2005 10:49:12 PM new
"""Terri's case HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN the same Federal review that every convict on death row receives. Period......and she has done nothing...committed no crime...etc."""
Well she wasn't given a review BECAUSE she committed no crime.
And bush did NOT review appeals when he was governor....he just did whatever Gonzales told him to do as far as death row inmates were concerned.
Why are you not worried about all the innocent people HE put to death who weren't sick or disabled in any way???????
AND, my husband(and I have one) knows that my wishes are that if I was ever like that woman to let me die....her condition is not LIFE.
And I would be very angry at the very selfish self-centered people who would want me to suffer just so THEY could be around me.
I haven't the great fear of dying that you "christians" have.
posted on March 18, 2005 10:49:55 PM new
No crowfarm it is the right to life.
We are taking the word of a man, who hasn't been a husband for quite some time. Who has a "wife" "girlfriend" or whoever she is, and small children. Why doesn't he move on, get a divorce and marry and take the children off of the illegitimate status. Of course he wants her to die so that he can claim the insurance check and then he would be free to marry.
You didn't answer my question. How would you like to starve to death.? How would you like to sit and watch your daughter die of starvation. I guess since you have no children you wouldn't know.
This is not a Bush thing or a Republican thing it is the right to life. No I don't agree with abortion either. I believe every child conceived has a right to life.
Maybe you should become a mother and find out what it is like to have a child. Oh no heaven forbid. Ask some of the posters in here. NTS for example. She now, because of her daughter is enjoying her granddaughter. You crowfarm will never enjoy the feeling that motherhood or grandmotherhood will bring. To see someone die and to think it is a person that wants her dead so he continue on enjoying the life he is leading with an illegimate family.
Go ahead crowfarm sprue your venom and your hatetread toward Bush. He is only one of many that feel the same was as I do.
posted on March 18, 2005 10:50:37 PM new
You want the government to invade our privacy and tell us when we should live....just wait until they want to say when someone should die .................
posted on March 18, 2005 10:54:22 PM new
He is still her husband and still has the legal right .....change the law if you don't like it and quit advocating breaking it. Have you Righties NO respect for marriage...Ha! I thought it was so important to you.
posted on March 18, 2005 11:12:13 PM new
Another inane statement:""She's just in her husbands way...and rather than divorcing her...he wants her dead. ""
THINK! If he wants to get rid of her he just has to divorce her.......WHY then would she need to be dead for him to be free to marry the other woman ???THINK!
Oh, sorry, I forgot who I was addressing..............
[ edited by crowfarm on Mar 18, 2005 11:13 PM ]
posted on March 18, 2005 11:39:21 PM new
[i]Have you Righties NO respect for marriage[i/]. What [b]He has no respect for marriage as proven by his "wife, "girlfriend" whoever she is and the illegitimate children[b/]. He says he loves her then he goes home to his illigimate family. What is with that. Is that love. Tell me crowfarm do you really think he loves her? Probably another unanswered question by crowfarm.
Why doesn't he get divorced. Because there is a lawsuit pending and if Terri wins he gets the money if he gets divorced the parents do. Plain and simple.
Now I think you need to read the living will. If you go to the hospital and you haven't signed one of those your husband has no authority to tell the hospital what to do. You have authority over your life and nobody else does. Just because your married doesn't give your husband jurisdiction over your life and vise versa. When Terri had her stroke there was no living wills.
BTW crowfarm you haven't answered my question. Would you like to starve to death?
posted on March 19, 2005 05:50:49 AM new
Lala:""You have authority over your life and nobody else does.""
Then why is Congress butting in?
""Just because your married doesn't give your husband jurisdiction over your life and vise versa""
I would hope he did! Who else? One of the Bushes?? A Republican senator who doesn't know me at all?
No, I prefer my husband who knows me better than anyone on earth and has the courage to end my life knowing I wouldn't want to live in that condition. If he REALLY loved me he'd let me go.
As for"starving" to death, I'm sure she's on pain medication and has been on drugs for 14 years.
Besides , she wouldn't have to starve to death if they could call Dr. K .
lala says, ""He says he loves her then he goes home to his illigimate family. What is with that. Is that love. Tell me crowfarm do you really think he loves her? Probably another unanswered question by crowfarm. ""
Yes, he could although neither you nor I nor Jeb Bush knows the true answer.....only the husband does.......who are YOU to decide?
I see nothing wrong with him finding a new life...it's only natural.......you judge him when you're perfect....he's a young person, not a dried up old prune.
OK, I answered that question now YOU answer the first question !
posted on March 19, 2005 06:05:01 AM new
Crowfarm, historically in this country the spouse of a person living in a vegetative state was the person to make the decision to pull the machines and let that person die.
Now the right to life people and religious right want to make it the government's job.
The same people that preach "LESS GOVERNMENT" HA!!!
The same people that preach the SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE. HA!!! Another joke.
I saw Tom Delay who is dirtier and unmoral as a pig rolling in mud talk about the morality of this case. So now the right to life and religious right people have Tom Delay representing them on morality. HA!!! The biggest joke yet with more to come.
HEY AMERICA YOU BETTER WATCH REAL CLOSELY WHAT THIS WHITE HOUSE AND ITS GANG OF PEOPLE LIKE TOM DELAY ARE DOING TO YA.
Learn more about Tom Delay below.
A letter to the editor about the Washington Post's Story Behind Tom DeLay's Trips
Saturday, March 19, 2005; Page A24
Regarding the March 10 front-page story "S. Korean Group Sponsored DeLay Trip"; the March 12 front-page story "Gambling Interests Funded DeLay Trip"; and the March 14 front-page story "DeLay Ethics Allegations Now Cause of GOP Concern":
posted on March 19, 2005 06:14:21 AM new
Ha! Ya, Bigpeepa, Delay violated ethics rules so he had them just change the rules!!
He is one sleazy dude! His fellow Repugs are distancing themselves quickly!
posted on March 19, 2005 06:27:45 AM new
Crow, old George must love this issue. It takes the focus off his failed SS program. The same old tactic from this White House and its supporters they just blow a Hugh amount of smoke to hide and confuse people. Its the very old divide and conquer routine again and again from this White House and its supporters.
posted on March 19, 2005 06:30:03 AM new
All the more reason to have a living will. IMO, the family needs to let go. Even if she survives, her chances for ever leading a normal and productive life are slim to none. How many of you would want to live your life in a vegetative state, a strain on your family and friends? The Lord took her a long time ago. It's only due to the medical community and her family that she lays where she does.
posted on March 19, 2005 06:37:22 AM new
A friend of mine's sister lives near Michael Schiavo. The community there is much more sympathetic to Michael. He has nothing due to the insurmountable hospital bills adding up, with interest, for 15 years. Last I knew, Catholics didn't believe in divorce. And we can all "love" someone and know there is no future. Should he have sat by her bedside for 15 years, while his in-laws are doing everything in their power to make his life a living hell? I do not believe "starving" her is the answer either. I believe someone should intervene in some cases, as some have no one looking out for them.
Too many "gray" areas in this one....But once the Supreme Court hears it, it should be over.
posted on March 19, 2005 07:50:04 AM newI was wondering about WHO has to pay for her care.
Appears there are MANY things about this case that you have no knowledge of. figures....
Medicaid pays her hosptial bills and she's been in a HOSPICE facility for almost all these years - you can't pay...they don't charge. Her husband has allowed NO TESTS to be done...like MRI's...PET scans...etc. heck he won't even pay to get her teeth fixed - let alone receive therapy to see if her condition could be improved. He's spent almost all the money the court awarded for HER care on fighting for his right to kill her. The money the court awarded HIS for loss of marital relations.....he refuses to account for. [his right].
And I'd bet cheryl would feel much differently if she could put herself in this situation. Where initally you, as a parent were told therapy very well might improve your daughters condition....but your son-in-law constantly refused ANY treatments for her.
twig...the USSC has twice refused to hear this case. Once to save her life before...and once when Florida passed Terri's Law and then it was ruled unconstitutional. There's not enough time left for Terri for them to try to appeal to the USSC again. She's suffering a very painful way of dying....starvation and lack of any fluids...husband won't even allow ice chips.
IMO, UNLESS there is no disagreement in the family OR if a 'notice of intention' has been signed by the patient themself....that anyone, husband or not, has the right to decide to take a life. And that's exactly what they're doing.
Torturing her...until she dies rather than turning her care over to her family who want to care for her.
posted on March 19, 2005 07:55:29 AM new
Another false statement - He is still her husband and still has the legal right.....change the law if you don't like it and quit advocating breaking it.
No...it's the husband that hasn't followed Florida law. For the past three or four years he hasn't presented the court with the REQUIRED yearly notification of what her health treatments will be. Had this judge, that's so willing to end her life, followed the LAW....because the husband was not doing as the court requires....guardianship SHOULD have been given to someone who would follow the law in regards to her care.
posted on March 19, 2005 08:08:14 AM new
Schiavo Spending First Full Day Off Tube
2 hours, 25 minutes ago U.S. National - AP
By MITCH STACY, Associated Press Writer
PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - Lying in her hospice bed with a crowd of protesters gathering outside, Terri Schiavo stopped receiving nourishment through a feeding tube that has kept her alive for more than a decade. Activists promised to keep a vigil for Schiavo, while congressional Republicans and her parents' lawyers promised to go on fighting for her life as she spent her first full day Saturday without food and water.
Doctors removed the tube Friday despite an extraordinary, last-minute push by Republicans on Capitol Hill to use the subpoena powers of Congress to keep the brain-damaged woman alive.
Schiavo, 41, could linger one to two weeks, provided no one intercedes and gets the tube reinserted — something that has happened twice before.
Outside the hospice, the Rev. Patrick Mahoney of the Christian Defense Coalition said activists planned to try to enter the hospice Saturday morning "to try to give Terri a cup of water."
But Schiavo's husband said removing the tube was what Terri wanted. He was at her side shortly after the tube was removed at mid-afternoon.
"It felt like some peace was happening for Terri," Michael Schiavo told NBC's "Today" on Saturday. "And I felt like she was finally going to get what she wants, and be at peace and be with the Lord."
The removal signals that an end may be near in a decade-long feud between Schiavo's husband and her devoutly Roman Catholic parents, Bob and Mary Schindler. The parents have been trying to oust Michael Schiavo as their daughter's guardian and keep in place the tube that has kept her alive for more than 15 years.
Michael Schiavo says his wife told him she would not want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents dispute that, saying she could get better and that their daughter has laughed, cried, smiled and responded to their voices. Court-appointed physicians testified her brain damage was so severe that there was no hope she would ever have any cognitive abilities.
David Gibbs III, the Schindlers' attorney, said he would work through the weekend to prepare another appeal for a federal appellate court. He also said he hoped lawmakers in Washington or Tallahassee could agree on legislation that would force that the tube be reinserted.
"I'm hopeful these men and women can get a strategy, get a focus, because we're running out of time," Gibbs said.
Bobby Schindler, Terri's brother, told NBC on Saturday that the woman's family still believes she can improve with therapy.
"It's clear to us Terri is very much alive and she just needs help," he said. "There's a reason why Michael and his attorney are trying so hard to keep Terri from the public and I would just welcome the opportunity to bring Terri outside and allow the world to see her."
On Friday, Republicans on Capitol Hill used their subpoena power to demand that Terri Schiavo be brought before a congressional hearing, saying that removing the tube amounted to "barbarism." Michael Schiavo's attorney shot back at a news conference, calling the subpoenas "nothing short of thuggery."
"Terri Schiavo has a right to die in peace," attorney George Felos said.
The judge presiding over the case ruled in the husband's favor and rejected the request from House attorneys to delay the removal, which he had previously ordered to take place at 1 p.m. EST.
"I have had no cogent reason why the (congressional) committee should intervene," Circuit Judge George Greer told attorneys in a conference call, adding that last-minute action by Congress does not invalidate years of court rulings.
Gov. Jeb Bush said the judge's decision "breaks my heart" and noted it often takes two decades for a death row inmate's appeals to go through the system.
"There's this rush to starve her to death," Bush said.
Michael Schiavo said Bush and other lawmakers have no business interfering in a personal, family matter. "These people are pandering for votes. That's all," he told NBC.
Late Friday, the Supreme Court, without comment, denied an emergency request from the House committee that issued the subpoenas to reinsert Schiavo's feeding tube while the committee files appeals in the lower courts to have its subpoenas recognized.
House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said in a statement late Friday that they "are committed to reaching an agreement on legislation that provides an opportunity to save Mrs. Schiavo's life."
Schiavo suffered severe brain damage in 1990 when a chemical imbalance apparently brought on by an eating disorder caused her heart to stop beating for a few minutes. She can breathe on her own, but has relied on the feeding and hydration tube to keep her alive.
Both sides accused each other of being motivated by greed over a $1 million medical malpractice award from doctors who failed to diagnose the chemical imbalance.
The Schindlers also said Michael Schiavo wants their daughter dead so he can marry his longtime girlfriend, with whom he has young children. They have begged him to divorce their daughter, and let them care for her.
The tangled case has encompassed at least 19 judges in at least six different courts.
In 2001, Schiavo went without food and water for two days before a judge ordered the tube reinserted when a new witness surfaced.
When the tube was removed in October 2003, her parents and two siblings frantically sought intervention from the governor, who pushed through "Terri's Law," and six days later the tube was reinserted. The Florida Supreme Court (news - web sites) ruled in September 2004 that Bush had overstepped his authority and declared the law unconstitutional.
On Feb. 25, Circuit Judge George Greer gave Michael Schiavo permission to order the removal of the feeding tube Friday.
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Terri Schiavo has a right to die in peace," attorney George Felos said.
Is staving her the right to die?
Crowfarm answer my question would you like to starve to death? Have you read about medical living wills?
posted on March 19, 2005 08:29:59 AM new
libra once again you prove your inability to discuss anything because you can't or won't read posts by others. You don't even read your own! You already posted the above!
From your post:
"Terri Schiavo has a right to die in peace," attorney George Felos said."
""Crowfarm answer my question would you like to starve to death? """
I answered that question in about two or three posts..""No, starving shouldn't be the answer(although drugs would eliminate the pain)....it should be quick but that option is against the law!"""
YOU never answered ANY of my questions.
Lala:""You have authority over your life and nobody else does.""
Then why is Congress butting in?
linduh when the judge rules...it's the law...."The judge presiding over the case ruled in the husband's favor and rejected the request from House attorneys to delay the removal, which he had previously ordered to take place at 1 p.m. EST."
AND linDUH, there are many many (100,00) people in this country in the same condition. Why -o- why are the Repugs NOW making an issue of THIS particular case?
posted on March 19, 2005 08:35:22 AM new
""""Appears there are MANY things about this case that you have no knowledge of. figures....
Medicaid pays her hosptial bills and she's been in a HOSPICE facility for almost all these years - you can't pay...they don't charge. Her husband has allowed NO TESTS to be done...like MRI's...PET scans...etc. heck he won't even pay to get her teeth fixed - let alone receive therapy to see if her condition could be improved. He's spent almost all the money the court awarded for HER care on fighting for his right to kill her. The money the court awarded HIS for loss of marital relations.....he refuses to account for. [his right]."""
Even if you could PROVE this, the HUSBAND and husband alone has the right to decide if she should have the plug pulled. Certainly not some vote seeking Repugs who love putting people to death as fast as possible.
Oh linDUH, you approve of torture, you have no feelings for anyone but yourself and now you want to appear like you actually CARE what happens to this woman ...BS!
You just want to defend bush, your shepherd..............
posted on March 19, 2005 08:41:01 AM new
HOW concerned is a bush about putting innocent people to death?
""DEATH PENALTY MEMOS: GONZALES'S NEGLIGENT COUNSEL: As chief legal counsel for then-Gov. Bush in Texas, Gonzales was responsible for writing a memo on the facts of each death penalty case – Bush decided whether a defendant should live or die based on the memos. An examination of the Gonzales memoranda by the Atlantic Monthly concluded, "Gonzales repeatedly failed to apprise the governor of crucial issues in the cases at hand: ineffective counsel, conflict of interest, mitigating evidence, even actual evidence of innocence." His memos caused Bush frequently to approve executions based on "only the most cursory briefings on the issues in dispute." Rather than informing the governor of the conflicting circumstances in a case, "The memoranda seem attuned to a radically different posture, assumed by Bush from the earliest days of his administration—one in which he sought to minimize his sense of legal and moral responsibility for executions." [Atlantic Monthly, July/August, 2003]""
posted on March 19, 2005 08:49:57 AM new
I have some questions that I am not clear on.
Court-appointed physicians testified her brain damage was so severe that there was no hope she would ever have any cognitive abilities.
I understand the above statement is saying that Teri is brain dead, is it not?
I am confused as I hear from others statements that she responds to her parents....shows emotions....
I don't think we put the mentally ill people to death, do we, just because they are mentally impaired?
But... if it is Fact that Teri has no brain function and no chance of recovering , and if it is true that her body is only able to survive with the aid of machines...that to me is only preserving the flesh of the person who is dead..
There are to many gray areas..about her prognosis...for me to even form an opinion.
Would it not help to have a team of medical experts hold a press conference right now to clarify her prognosis.. without a shadow of doubt..
Or are they not able to do this?
posted on March 19, 2005 08:56:22 AM newMedicaid pays her hosptial bills
Uh, no. YOU do. Where do you think Medicaid get the money? From you and from me and everyone else in this country whose working. For people who shout about people on Medicaid or welfare, you sure do change your tune at will.
posted on March 19, 2005 08:56:29 AM new
cblev65252, right on the subject post. Great post. About a living will you are right again. It looks like we all NOW NEED a living will to protect us from the right to life crowd along with the religious right. Back when Terry got brain damage we didn't need one because it was always the decision of the spouse to shut down medical care.
NOW UNDER THIS WHITE HOUSE AND THIS WHITE HOUSE ONLY. WE ALL NEED PROTECTION FROM THE RIGHT TO LIFE AND RELIGIOUS RIGHT PEOPLE ABOUT PERSONAL MATTERS. NOW UNDER THIS WHITE HOUSE THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO CHANGE LAWS ABOUT WHAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PERSONAL DECISION MADE BY THE SPOUSE ABOUT MEDICAL CARE.
We can all see where laws like this will lead. Hey people you better watch what this White House and its supporters are doing to ya.
