posted on April 19, 2005 09:06:18 AM new
Where do you stand on the great and growing gap between traditional American values and the secular liberalism of the Left? Take the following test.
Score each statement from 1 to 10 depending on how much you agree or disagree with it, with 10 meaning you strongly agree and 1 meaning you strongly disagree. If youre neutral, write 5.
Add the score at the end. The higher the score, the more you lean toward traditional American values. The lower the score, the more you favor the secular left-liberal system.
____ 1. We should be allowed to say one nation under God in the Pledge of Allegiance.
____ 2. Able-bodied people on welfare should be required to work.
____ 3. Men who assault pregnant women and kill the unborn child should be prosecuted for assault and murder.
____ 4. The United States should put its own interests first and cooperation with international organizations second.
____ 5. Believe in God.
____ 6. Proud to be an American.
____ 7. Schools should teach new immigrants about American values.
____ 8. Everyone should learn English.
____ 9. Personal injury lawyers should get no more than 15 percent of any award.
____ 10. It is possible to use new technology and new science to develop clean, renewable energy that protects the environment and the economy.
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I scored a 95,
A word to the wise ain't necessary, it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
- Bill Cosby
posted on April 19, 2005 09:38:07 AM new
Only 95, Bear??? Where did you swerve five degrees to the left? (that is, as the left is wrongly defined by Newt's screwed up survey)
posted on April 19, 2005 11:27:07 AM new
1. No
2. Yes but who decides what "able bodied" means?
3. Yes (?)
4. Not sure what this means. When has the US ever played second fiddle?
5. Yes, but not the one the hypocrits follow
6. Yes and No. I'm proud of the citizens, not the government
7. Schools should teach American children about American values first... what are American values anyway? I'd like to find out myself
8. If they feel like it
9. No
10. Yes, but it's very expensive and we'll need to use a lot of oil to get to that point
I don't know what my score is, but it's not 95%. LoL!!
posted on April 19, 2005 01:35:32 PM new
There are no cut and dry answers to any of these questions. Unlike what you, Bear, think, being a liberal means the same chance for wealth, healthcare, happiness and liberties afforded only to some right now should be afforded to all. I fail to understand what's so wrong with that? Unless, of course, you believe in the old class system. Keep the poor, poor and the wealthy, wealthy. That's the republican way.
1. Yes and you should also be allowed to not say it.
2. Yes, however repeating Kraft's comment, who decides what "able-bodied" is?
3. Yes
4. It already does.
5. Yes and also not believe in God
6. Yes, but again as Kraft states, not proud of the American government
7. What are American values and why does anyone think they are better than anyone else's? The "values" you practice in your life are personal and are not dictated by whatever religious organization happens to be in the forefront or whatever leader happens to be in the white house. So, no.
8. Yes, however, they should be allowed to speak their language when they feel like it and should be allowed to teach it to their children. I only say "yes" because it will help them get along better in this country not because I think English is the superior language.
9. Yes
10. Probably, but not likely. Brings to mind the protected land in Alaska. . .now who wants to drill there?
Bear, it should be clear to you that this test is based entirely on false assumptions. For example, to score high on the liberal scale you would not believe in God or value your American heritage when in fact, most liberals do believe in God and are proud of their American heritage. Leave it to Newt to devise such a flawed survey to maliciously defame the liberal viewpoint.
posted on April 19, 2005 04:28:26 PM new
Newt Gingrich...is he still around?
This quiz is just about as lame as peepa's AOL polls...
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Dick Cheney: "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..."
posted on April 19, 2005 07:35:59 PM new
Hey Bear your side has failed on a lot more than number 9 that's the bad side. The good side is the average American is now seeing what this White House is doing to them. The rich are getting richer while the middle class and poor are getting poorer. That's called the separation of class.
profe51, If I have time I just read about Tom DeLay on adelphia might post it soon. If I have time.
I also saw a CNN poll tonight that said 97% of the people that voted voted against the Bush idea to grant millions of illegals aliens the legal right to live and work in America. They said the Bush idea is only good for supplying cheep labor to industry. You have already said these polls don't meet your standards. Do you think the poll could be 97% off. I don't.
Profe51, doesn't make many posts but calls other peoples post "lame" among other things. Talking about "lame" without a backbone.
[ edited by bigpeepa on Apr 19, 2005 07:44 PM ]
posted on April 20, 2005 12:25:28 AM new
::I also saw a CNN poll tonight that said 97% of the people that voted voted against the Bush idea to grant millions of illegals aliens the legal right to live and work in America.::
Well, all that poll proved is that CNN and 97% of those who voted don't know sh*t about the topic they are being polled on. Non-specialty work and resident visas are limited to finite number quotas divided by percentage based on nation of origin and the quotas are far less than "millions". gotta love polls that only succeed in reflecting ignorance.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on April 20, 2005 05:46:00 AM new
... gotta love polls that only succeed in reflecting ignorance
It makes you wonder if ignorance is the intellectual status of the average American. It explains the election and reelection of George Bush and the fact that so many economically disadvantaged people vote Republican.
posted on April 20, 2005 06:08:49 AM new
FENIX03, please see a straw poll question by AOL about Tom Delay below.
The AOL straw poll question and answers below.
Do you believe Tom DeLay when he says he's never violated a rule or law?
No 83%
Yes 13%
I'm Not Sure 3%
Total Votes: 10,742
FENIX03 you said the words below about people that voted in a CNN straw poll about Bush wanting to give the legal right for illegal aliens to live and work in America. 97% of the people voting thought it was a bad Bush idea in that poll.
FENIX03 SAID, "Well, all that poll proved is that CNN and 97% of those who voted don't know sh*t about the topic they are being polled on."
So now I would guess that Fenix03 must also feel the same way about 83% of the people that voted in the Tom Delay question. FENIX03 must also believe those people "don't know sh*t"
I believe that everyday the American people are getting more involved and knowledgeable about the issues facing them and America. I also believe that is a very good trend. Keep it up America you are finding out for yourselves who is telling the truth and who is not.
posted on April 20, 2005 09:34:37 AM new
Do you believe Tom DeLay when he says he's never violated a rule or law?
percentage of people who voted by political party.
democrats 86%
republicans 13%
Total Votes: 10,742
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Baseball season has started,but they have it all wrong.3 strikes and you're out,4 balls you walk.I can tell you right now a man with 4 balls could not possibly walk
posted on April 20, 2005 09:39:54 AM new
Peepa - are you a complete idiot or do you just portray one on the internet? Did you hurt yourself making that leap? Are you truly unable to grasp the concept that I was stating that the the poll is based on an incorrect statement and both the creator and those who assume that it was factual are uninformed, reactionary and ignorant?
Can you draw me a map of the route you took to somehow correlate my comments about a poll whose foundation was based on blatantly incorrect information and still another of your AOL polls whose only similarity to the one I was commenting on seems to be that choice of answers included Yes and NO?
You know - if you would bother to open your mind you might learn something but your absolute insistence on making these the outrageous, far reaching and inevitably incorrect assumptions in the end simply leaves you and your conclusions as irrelevant.
BTW - Can you please post a link or mention of any kind to the previous mentioned CNN poll? I find it difficult to believe that they framed a poll around such blatantly incorrect info. Somehow I think that you are the one that inserted the drastically inflated numbers.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on April 20, 2005 09:57:51 AM new
Funny, but I find republicans EASY, Bear. 90% of their time is spent trying to separate issues as black or white, while the other 10% is busy telling everyone how we need to come together as a nation.
I agree with Helen. The republican party is so popular because it's based on ignorance and greed. Something the brain-dead tend to gravitate towards because they don't have a clue how to think on their own.
Maybe I'll write my own slanted test and see how all the conservatives here score, but why waste my time when I already know the answers?
posted on April 20, 2005 10:44:41 AM new
That's because 90% of the time issues are black & white. It takes an idiot (or ultra-liberal) to debate whether CA tax dollars should be spent for medical care or education of ILLEGAL immigrants for example.
1) 10 If you want, sure
2) 10 It's not too hard to figure out
3) 10 I don't believe in special "subclasses" of crimes. ie: murder me, get 10 yrs out in 3. Murder a cop, life. That's bs.
4) 10 Absotivly.
5) 4 who cares what you believe
6) 10 Compared to a World that's 75% savages, a no-brainer.
7) 10 If it's an American school. This is controversial???
8) 3 Couldn't care less, but absolutely no accomodation for people who are citizens and won't learn the language. No "dual language" school rooms, no government hearings with translation.
9) 3 Whatever the market will bear. If you don't want to pay him, don't sue.
10)10 This requires deep thought??
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[ edited by desquirrel on Apr 20, 2005 10:45 AM ]
posted on April 20, 2005 11:01:23 AM newThe republican party is so popular because it's based on ignorance and greed. Something the brain-dead tend to gravitate towards because they don't have a clue how to think on their own...
The republican party (in my view) promotes self-sustenance. - IOW, sh* or get off the pot. I think many liberals 'dont have a clue' and only want to rely heavily on government services because they WONT think on their own.
posted on April 20, 2005 11:14:16 AM new
fenix03, I find it comical how you consider Internet poll voters "DON'T KNOW SH*T ABOUT THE TOPIC".
I am beginning to believe you are a member of the very small minority of self-centered self-serving people that masquerade as caring Democrats. Like Geo Bush going to a masquerade party dressed and wearing a Democrats face mask of Franklin Roosevelt. At the next masquerade party you attend maybe you should wear a Hillary Clinton face mask. LOL
I will continue to make posts and really don't give a "sh*t" about what you think of them.
posted on April 20, 2005 11:36:15 AM new
Ever notice how REAL pollsters who conduct scientific polls based on their own secret methodology produce numbers that are within tenths of the actual results?
On the other hand you have twits that post:
Moveon.org has Kerry 70 to 30. Then there is the endless "conspiracies" and "fraud", etc, when the election happens and the results are decidedly different.
posted on April 20, 2005 11:37:28 AM new
Bigpeepa, let me help you out a little bit here.
See, to these folks, AOL is like the dollar store of retailers. They wouldnt be caught dead in one, but meanwhile, they will pay about the same or more to buy the very same product from someone with some tech-buzz name recognition. AOL happens to still be the world's largest ISP - boasting close to 29 million users worldwide, and around 18 million in the U.S. (The others divvy up around 3-8 million each.)
So if there's anything to be said for polls at all... AOL at least has the widest market to get a pulse on. ...Carry on, polling man!
posted on April 20, 2005 11:45:28 AM new
LoLoLoL!!!! 75% of the world are savages?? Great view of things there DeSquirrel. While you're at it, can you clue a few of us in as to what American values are? Do you mean like the right to own a few dozen guns?
posted on April 20, 2005 12:23:21 PM new
You can spout all you want about "different culture", "traditions", etc, with say Islamic fundamentalism. But I'll still consider practicing what is essentially an eleventh century murder cult, the victimization of women, and the desire to force such practices on other populations as "savage".
If you want a gun or 50 or a steak knife or 50, it's fine by me. They are just tools.
And since you bring up guns, none of you wacko anti-gun types have ever answered any of what I considered important questions:
1) Somebody gets blown away with a "xxx" gun (fill in your favorite here "blue" "assault" etc). You want to pass a law banning "xxxx" guns. What then stops someone from using a "yyyy" gun??? Or a steak knife? or a sharp stick?
2) In the furvor to pass these "new" gun laws, what is the difference if the shooter who is violating 28 established gun laws violates 29.
3) I can go to any street corner in a big city and buy any damn kind of gun I please. If you pass your draconian gun laws, the only people you affect are NRA members, hunters and sportsman. The wackos still have and still can get guns. The only people you can stop are law abiding and trained in gun safety.
People kill people, not guns, steak knives, or sharp sticks.
posted on April 20, 2005 12:31:19 PM new
::I am beginning to believe you are a member of the very small minority of self-centered self-serving people that masquerade as caring Democrats::
I'm sure that is a much more comfortable fit for you than to assume that you and your fellow participants in the poll, which you conveniently forgot to provide a link to, don't know enough about immigration practices to recognize the inaccuracies of your embellishments.
It's probably also easier to label others rather than accept the contradictions of your ultimate compassionate human self image with the reality of your own xenophobia.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
posted on April 20, 2005 12:46:05 PM newIt's probably also easier to label others rather than accept the contradictions of your ultimate compassionate human self image with the reality of your own xenophobia.
hahahaha!! Now, if that isn't freaking smug, I dont know what is!
posted on April 20, 2005 01:36:53 PM new"People kill people ..."
LoL!! Yeah, with guns, DeSquirrel. Maybe you could tell me how many lives have been saved because someone had a gun to ward off an attacker/intruder. I'm sure the NRA has lots of stats backing them up, but somehow they forgot to publish this info which would justify the use of them. Weird eh?... seeing they're sold for "protection".
posted on April 20, 2005 01:50:59 PM new
What should the waiting period be to purchase a set of steak knives??
"Maybe you could tell me how many lives have been saved because someone had a gun to ward off an attacker/intruder. I'm sure the NRA has lots of stats backing them up, but somehow they forgot to publish this info which would justify the use of them."
Totally immaterial. If your premise is a ban because of illegal use, what about knives, poisons, CARS. Your whole theory is completely illogical.
[ edited by desquirrel on Apr 20, 2005 01:55 PM ]
posted on April 20, 2005 02:12:21 PM new
dblfugger, About my ISP providers. I use both AOL and adelphia. When I first starting selling on Ebay and got my first computer AOL was free so I used it. As time went along I worked to built up a following of repeat customers both on and off Ebay. Many of my better customers have my AOL email address book-marked. When I find something they collect I email them or when they want me to find something I get emails from them. So I now use Adelphia because its cable fast and AOL only cost me $14.95 per month. Every month I sell to several customers through my AOL email address.
I believe the complaints about my posts are from the small minority of republicans.The ones that belong to the Radical Christian Right or greedy self-serving republicans also in the small minority that want to see a further division of class in America.
Simply put almost every poll taken anywhere show support for their leaders is going down big-time.
I will continual to post articles and polls in hopes readers will become better informed. I hope they will look into the issues and make up their own minds whats good and not good for All America.
fenix03, wow I am impressed with your 50 cent word you must have a big edgeumacation. LOL
posted on April 20, 2005 02:24:33 PM new
Peepa - Found the link to that poll yet?
I don't understand, you copy and paste polls all the time yet this one that shows rather dramatic inaccuracies in it's formation as well as rather large discrepancies with a long term trends regarding views on immigration, and you seem to be making a pointed attempt to avoid showing us the data.
I've looked everywhere for this poll. You are the one that espouses your desire to present facts for examination and evaluation ad nauseum. Present!
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
[ edited by fenix03 on Apr 20, 2005 02:25 PM ]
