posted on November 7, 2000 11:47:42 PM new
I need to break out a chocolate Easter bunny and bite it's head off, then swallow it! I need a chocolate rush!!
posted on November 7, 2000 11:49:43 PM new
Aw,c'mon you guys! Now we get our chance to go back to the 50's! Back to the cold war,the Red threat! You know all the fun things in life! When men ran the world and women did the cookin'! Whooee! I can hardly wait!
posted on November 8, 2000 01:14:29 AM new
Ummm, hold the phone.
Florida now is NOT counted, Gore has retracted his concession, and as it stands the vote spread in Florida is 1210 votes toward Bush. There may be a recount, in fact, Florida law requires one. There are as many as 4000 absentee ballots not counted also
posted on November 8, 2000 01:33:08 AM newStrangest election I've ever seen.
Can you believe, we've elected a first lady, a dead man, we had judges ordering polling places kept open, then another judge closed them. Fla was Gore's, then too close to call, then Bush's, then too close to call.
posted on November 8, 2000 01:38:54 AM new
This is beyond bizarre.
Not only are there absentee ballots to be counted, but there are also many small, rural precincts that haven't been counted. With such a small margin separating the two, I hope this is examined closely.
Bob Butterworth, the state attny general, say's there will be an official re-count.
posted on November 8, 2000 02:45:29 AM new
Doomed? Did you major in drama?
1st We don't even know who the president is.
2nd No matter how incompetent the president is, politics move so slow that nobody can screw things up much in just 4 years.
3rd we survived Nixon and Carter.
Don't go around wearing a "Doomed" sign, its very unbecoming.
posted on November 8, 2000 04:44:05 AM new
When asked if he would win his home state of Tennessee, Al Gore said "You can write this down and book it: We'll carry Tennessee!"
Well, he was wrong.
You can write this down and book it: Bush will still take Florida after the recount and his margin will be even bigger after the rest of the absentee ballots are counted.
This is the good news. Now for the bad news:
George W. Bush will be the next President of the United States. As much as I detest Gore and Slick Willie (and support Bush), I cannot be happy about this.
The fact is that Al Gore won the popular vote. True, the margin was razor thin, but he still received the most votes for President. He should be the next President (God it hurts to say that).
The electoral college system is antiquated and none of the reasons for having it in place still apply. It's time to scrap it and bring the US electoral process into the 21st century.
posted on November 8, 2000 06:22:46 AM new
I heard that if the claims of ballot tampering in Florida prove true, they will call for a new election in Florida within 30 days. This might mean that we won't know who the president is for quite awhile.
Humanity I love; it's people I can't stand
posted on November 8, 2000 06:22:56 AM new
I heard that if the claims of ballot tampering in Florida prove true, they will call for a new election in Florida within 30 days. This might mean that we won't know who the president is for quite awhile.
Humanity I love; it's people I can't stand
posted on November 8, 2000 06:41:43 AM new
There was no ballot tampering. It was voter error. They didn't read the ballot before casting their vote. Turns out that the affected precinct used a different format for the ballot from the one the rest of the state used (and different from the sample ballots).
So instead of voting for Gore, they voted for Buchanan (what a switch!).
posted on November 8, 2000 07:04:15 AM new
This rests squarely on the Nader voters in Florida. Across the country green party people were able to look at results from eastern seaboard states, and adjust their voting for or against Bush and Gore by voting Gore unless they wanted to assist Bush. It looks like Gore was seen as the lesser evil. But in Florida, the green dupes still believed in the possibility of casting enough votes for Nader to bring the party money next time. Now the 95,000 + Florida Nader votes have effectively swung the state to Bush.
posted on November 8, 2000 07:28:41 AM new
That's simplistic, considering what happerned. The Nader websites were tracking all polling results on the east coast and the voters were using the information to "vote their convictions" where they felt in would do the most good. It was manipulation, plain and simple, designed to affect results and take votes from Bush or to add votes for Gore.
Of course, the eastern states had no knowledge of any of this, and their votes were cast purely from their hearts in spite of green party near continual pressing of the advantage to be had in voting for or against Nader vis-a-vis state by state results.
posted on November 8, 2000 07:29:22 AM new
I agree with Toke. Gore lost this election rather than Bush won it. For a sitting Vice Presiden, in the midst of the best economic conditions in history, to lose an election to the likes of GW is a disgrace.
Humanity I love; it's people I can't stand
posted on November 8, 2000 08:09:43 AM new
I was watching the news last night before I went to sleep and heard about the format mixup in Florida, where the voters unwittingly cast their votes for Buchanan. Supposedly, this was a heavily Jewish precinct, which common sense tells us no WAY, Nuh UH, would these voters ever vote for Buchanan. I haven't heard anymore on the news about it. Does anyone know how many votes are in question, and what happens to those votes? Are the voters allowed to vote again, or how would they "fix" this? Do they just void their votes? What? Anybody that lives in Florida know?
posted on November 8, 2000 08:12:48 AM newGore 47,145,119, Bush 47,094,565.
Do your arithmetic.
The arithmetic here is irrelevant because the popular vote is irrelevant. Gore lost the election. And the recount and the counting of the overseas absentee votes in Florida will not change it. The numbers are simply against Gore. As a matter of fact, Bush's winning margin will increase after the absentee ballots are counted.
That being said, Gore should have won, but because of the antiquated electoral college he didn't. This needs to be changed and I predict that it will.
posted on November 8, 2000 08:15:46 AM new
I have just heard that Florida has found a locked ballot box with uncounted ballots. What is going on in that state? Maybe because a Bush is governor.
All those wasted votes going to Nader and he didn't even get enough to qualify to get the money.
posted on November 8, 2000 08:16:18 AM newDoes anyone know how many votes are in question, and what happens to those votes? Are the voters allowed to vote again, or how would they "fix" this?
There is nothing to fix. It was voter error due to failure to read the ballots before placing the vote. A voter cannot change their vote because thay made a mistake. To allow them to do so would create havoc with the electoral process. Once you vote, that's it.
posted on November 8, 2000 08:18:58 AM new
Hi KatyD --
It's my understanding that the ballot mix-up took place in Palm Beach county, which usually votes republican. Anyway, it is said that Buchanan received roughly 2500 votes there. I don't know how this will be resolved, and haven't heard anything about a solution.
posted on November 8, 2000 08:22:39 AM new
Abingdon, is that true? Is that the official word? The thing is, I just can't IMAGINE, any precinct in a given state having DIFFERENT formatted ballots from the rest of the state. Here in California, all of our ballots are the same, and are formatted the same as our "Sample Ballots" that the state sends to register voters. This has all the information on the candidates, and state measures up for vote. So one marks, your sample ballot, and then at the voting booth it's easy to just use as your guide. Do they do that in Florida? Because if they do, and this is the only precinct that had the different format, then something stinks there. I guess, having Bush's name where Buchanan's was would have been too obvious. NOT that I'm saying this is what happened, but something isn't right there. Does the state send out sample ballots? Any Floridians out there?
