posted on November 12, 2000 10:33:25 AM new
GOP's list of voter irregularities in Milwaukee
Last Updated: Nov. 10, 2000
Following is the text of a list of allegations of voter irregularity and fraud in Milwaukee collected by the Wisconsin Republican Party and turned over to the Milwaukee County district attorney's office on Friday:
Incident: Marquette students were seen taking 10 or more ballots at a time.
Incident: Ballots were taken out of the polling place.
Incident: Individuals entered the voting place with more than one addressed envelope and asked which one would allow them to vote in that location.
Incident: A voter was asked by another voter to vouch for her residence in the ward. He said he wouldn't, and the woman appealed to another person in line. The other person claimed to poll workers that she is his roommate.
Incident: A voter was told that she had already voted upon arriving at her polling place. She was asked to sign an affidavit verifying who she was and was not told what happened to her first ballot.
Incident: Polling place had a "help yourself" pile of ballots. Voters could have easily voted more than once.
Incident: Ballots were left sitting on a chair prior to being fed through the machine. Poll workers were seen looking through them.
Incident: UWM student voted on campus. Another voter showed his off campus address to a poll worker. The poll worker told him, "you can't vote here, put down (address of dorm) instead." Same student said friends were bragging about having voted for Gore five or six times.
Incident: Voter was told that his marks on the ballot were too dark, and asked to re-do the ballot. The voter did not see the other ballot destroyed.
Incident: Ballot machine was not operating. The ballots were being stacked in a pile for workers to run through later.
Incident: Ballots may have been left unattended in some areas of Milwaukee due to a broken down truck.
Incident: Marquette students voted 5 or 6 times for Al Gore.
Incident: Two ballots were given to a man wearing a Milwaukee County Public Schools jacket. When he tried to return a ballot, he was told that he should have two.
Incident: Poll workers told a voter to "vote democrat".
Incident: A voter tried to register to vote at the 4th Precinct in the 72nd Ward of Milwaukee. He was not asked for identification or proof of address. Poll workers tried to prevent him from filling out a registration card. Registration cards that he observed only had a signature, no address.
Incident: Ward 296, District 16, called the city clerk to verify what was needed to re-register at a new address. When they re-registered, they were not asked for any proof of residence.
Incident: Non-registered voters were not asked for identification at the 6th District polling place.
Incident: A new voter was not required to show any identification at the Cumberland School in Whitefish Bay.
Incident: A Marquette student had moved since voting in the April primary. Poll workers told her "not to worry about it and just go ahead and vote" when she attempted to change her address.
Incident: A voter was given three different ballots due to mistakes he made on them. The two previous ballots were not seen destroyed.
Incident: Ballot machine in Wauwatosa was broken, and until the machine was fixed, ballots were stacked next to the machine.
posted on November 12, 2000 10:47:12 AM new
Hi jakemelon. Could you please provide a more complete and direct cite or link to this information? Thanks!
posted on November 12, 2000 11:05:03 AM new
Dear Melon.
Bush will most likely go into the Presidential office--but no one in the whole world except the Republicans will think of him as the truely elected President of the USA.
You can quote me your Constitution, election laws, post links from news stories from 4 years ago and from this election til you are blue in the face----Bush will have the office and all the trappings---but history will remember him otherwise.
posted on November 12, 2000 11:19:33 AM newBush will most likely go into the Presidential office--but no one in the whole world except the Republicans will think of him as the truely elected President of the USA.
You can quote me your Constitution, election laws, post links from news stories from 4 years ago and from this election til you are blue in the face----Bush will have the office and all the trappings---but history will remember him otherwise.
Roughly 1/2 of the Americans who voted in this election would probably say the same thing about Gore. It's true that niether candidate would enjoy a mandate should he win and both parties have handled the situation very poorly. To say that Bush will fair any worse than Gore will if inaugurated is simplistic and silly.
[ edited by abingdoncomputers on Nov 12, 2000 11:20 AM ]
posted on November 12, 2000 11:28:49 AM new
abin---you forgot the rest of the world that I mentioned in my statement. The USA rarely considers the rest of the world --and rightly so in it's elections---but they still have opinions. And the world's opinion of Bush's win will not be good
posted on November 12, 2000 11:34:23 AM newTo say that Bush will fair any worse than Gore will if inaugurated is simplistic and silly.
You mean fare?
I'd agree, exceptthat's not what she said.
Her remark was based on an assumption which she included in her statement that Bush will probably win. She didn't imply it would be DIFFERENT for Gore were he the winner. Maybe she thinks it would be, but that wasn't implicit in her remarks.
Altho I will say that for Bush -- OR Gore, for that matter -- to assume office without a satisfactory resolution to a complete and accurate tabulation of the votes would cast an additional cloud over the legitimacy of the Presidency.
At this point, about 3/4 of Americans believe the vote tally should be accurate and complete, and no one rush to be President until it is. Their sentiments may change if this drags on, but that's not where we are at the moment. Bush and his folks aren't so far winning the PR battle, despite their best efforts (oval office-ish photo ops and so on).
posted on November 12, 2000 11:40:58 AM new
Well speaking of photo ops, there was a good one in the morning paper. Of Bush's dog, I mean. One of Millie's babies?? He looks like a nice dog. I'd vote for him.
posted on November 12, 2000 11:48:10 AM newBush will most likely go into the Presidential office--but no one in the whole world except the Republicans will think of him as the truely elected President of the USA.
What the rest of the world thinks of all of this is irrelevant. It's our Presidency that's at stake. Be that as it may, there is no reason whatsoever to believe that world opinion will be any different should Bush win or vice versa. There will be pretty much universal disgust around the world with the way this has been handled by both parties no matter who ends up winning.
If we replace the word Bush with the word Gore and the word Republicans with the word Democrats in the post above, it would still be just as valid (or invalid) as it is right now.
And I'm very sorry about my poor spelling. Perfect I am not. I'll try my best to live up to your standards for posting on this board in the future. If I should fail, please be gentle...
posted on November 12, 2000 11:53:37 AM new
Not to worry, abingdon. krs is an equal opportunity spell checker, republicans and democrats alike. He's quite good at it and keeps us on the straight and narrow.
posted on November 12, 2000 12:07:06 PM new
abin--if the recount suit is dropped and the recount goes through---and Bush remains the winner--he will be accepted as the true winner. If the recount does not go through because of the lawsuit--his integrity will be suspect.
I also said in my second post that the world's opinion should rightly not be considered---but it doesn't mean it isn't there.
posted on November 12, 2000 12:22:32 PM newif the recount suit is dropped and the recount goes through---and Bush remains the winner--he will be accepted as the true winner. If the recount does not go through because of the lawsuit--his integrity will be suspect.
Ok, let's turn it around. This morning Warren Christopher (on Meet The Press) said that if Bush is still ahead after the manual recount and the counting of the absentee ballots, the Democrats will consider "other options".
As usual, there are two sides to this story. To refuse to concede after 3 recounts and the completion of the absentee ballot counting would be disastrous for the Democrats' chances in 2004 IMO and public opinion would most certainly be against them. I agree with your belief that the Bush lawsuit was not the best road to take. But I disagree that he has handled this situation any worse than the Democrats and Gore have.
I also said in my second post that the world's opinion should rightly not be considered---but it doesn't mean it isn't there.
On this we agree. Thanks for the clarification.
[ edited by abingdoncomputers on Nov 12, 2000 01:40 PM ]
