jakemelon
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posted on November 12, 2000 10:41:35 AM new
Votes in Florida were counted TWICE and now are being counted THIRD time. This is a sign of a LOSER who just cannot take the loss. How many times do we need to recount these votes? If lets say the THIRD time still shows Bush leading do you want a FOURTH, FIFTH and SIXTH recount or will you come up with some other "excuse" or reason why Gore should have won??? get a grip people...
Mr. Gore do what is right for the country, give it up and take it like a man.
And for all of you Democrats out there; You can't accept a loss because you hate Republicans that is understood. Can't you put that aside and do what is best for the country? do not make a CIRCUS out of MY COUNTRY.
-me
p.s. see my prior posts and you'll see i'm neither a democrat nor a republican.
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abingdoncomputers
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posted on November 12, 2000 10:49:49 AM new
This morning on "Meet The Press", Tim Russert asked Warren Christopher point blank if after the manual recount is completed and the absentee ballots are all counted, should Bush still be ahead would Gore concede?
Christopher's answer was that they were considering other options.
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KatyD
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posted on November 12, 2000 11:05:32 AM new
Gee Jake, you're not upset or anything are you?  Nobody is making a circus out of OUR country. There's no constitutional crisis here. Everything will be ironed out soon, and we will know who our next president will be. I'm sure that BOTH candidates want a fair and accurate accounting of the Presidential vote. Patience is a virtue. Good things comes to those who wait. 
KatyD
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bobbi355
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posted on November 12, 2000 12:09:57 PM new
hmmm.........I wonder if I punched the right hole??? I say let the WHOLE COUNTRY revote next Tuesday!
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heyleigh
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posted on November 12, 2000 12:30:14 PM new
Votes in Florida were counted TWICE and now are being counted THIRD time
The votes were counted initially, after the polls closed, again when the percentages mandated a second count per statute, and again when requested by Gore- all according to and under the rule of law.
FL is but one question, NM, WI and a select few other states may also see recounts according to law. The GOP requested, under the law, that NM seize ballot boxes for a possible recount too. Both sides will do whatever is necessary to see this through to the end, whatever that end may be.
There is nothing illegitimate about any of this process, and it should be allowed to proceed to its logical conclusion without the diversion of hystrionics. The sky is not falling, there is no constitutional crisis, and all will be as it should be once the process plays out according to the rule of law.
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abingdoncomputers
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posted on November 12, 2000 12:46:44 PM new
heyleigh:
Your entire post was accurate and unemotional. Well done.
Both camps are acting like kindergarten students fighting over who gets to play with the red fire truck with the 3 foot extension ladder. They all look like buffoons right now but our Constitution and system of government will survive and grow stronger in the end because of this controversy. The sky is not falling. James Carville is rarely correct (IMO) but he is right on the money about this.
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toke
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posted on November 12, 2000 12:57:13 PM new
I must say the prospect of the next four years with either man as President...with an almost evenly divided Congress...is depressing. I truly can't foresee the accomplishment of anything of substance. Imagine the anger and bitterness on both sides of the aisle. I think the new President will have the worlds shortest honeymoon. And the longer this wrangling continues...the worse it will be, IMO.
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heyleigh
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posted on November 12, 2000 12:59:44 PM new
Why thank you, abingdon. It is my opinion that while the continued politics and spin of both sides do incite and muddy, all will be well in the end. I trust our constitution, I trust in the rule of law, and I will accept the eventual outcome as legitimate, whatever it may be.
On a side note, I find Zazzie's comments to be most astute and on point. It would be interesting to see other non Americans weigh in as well.
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spazmodeus
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posted on November 12, 2000 01:13:40 PM new
do not make a CIRCUS out of MY COUNTRY
... writes Jakemelon.
Yet he wants to put a clown in charge.
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jakemelon
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posted on November 12, 2000 01:39:33 PM new
spazmodeus;
We had a clown in the office for last 8 years what is wrong with a different clow for the next 4?
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spazmodeus
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posted on November 12, 2000 01:42:06 PM new
Never mind. This is pointless.
[ edited by spazmodeus on Nov 12, 2000 01:48 PM ]
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uaru
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posted on November 12, 2000 03:58:29 PM new
I believe it is time for the US to bring in some outside help. Maybe a team of overseer to monitor the recounting process... processes. I believe Chile has agreed to send a team to validate our election process. 
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dejavu
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posted on November 12, 2000 04:33:11 PM new
spaZ~ asked and answered thank you...
get a grip. Republicans are NOT your enemy,it apppears you are your own worst enemy........
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MrJim
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posted on November 13, 2000 06:47:49 AM new
"Votes in Florida were counted TWICE and now are being counted THIRD time"
The first count was close enough to require a recount by Florida law.
The second count revealed that some ballets were not being recorded properly by the counting machines.
A manual sample count was conducted which confirmed that the machine did fail to record legitimate votes.
The next logical step would be a full recount of the affected ballets. Nothing crooked or wrong about that. Just common sense. This was not the work of the Gore campaign, this was just the next logical step in a process to ensure the valid tabulation of the people's will.
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biff
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posted on November 13, 2000 08:00:24 AM new
dadgum rural ISP's, who kick you off and cause double posts . . .
In following the fine American tradition, I take no responsibility for this double post. It's always someone's else's fault.
[ edited by biff on Nov 13, 2000 08:23 AM ]
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biff
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posted on November 13, 2000 08:03:14 AM new
In such a close race nearly nationwide, why aren't we recounting everywhere? Similar problems are reported in many locations.
I still don't think this is about "Florida". It just so happens Florida is the last to submit their tally.
And I wonder why Mr. Gore won most of the cities and populated areas and Mr. Bush appealed to the more rural? I think it's because the city folks need the government to provide services and care (thus more government) and the rural people can do without government services and care, thereby voting republican, and less government.
I don't think most people voted for either cantidate. Rather the broad scope of what the party is supposed to represent. That's why Nader did as well as he did (and truth be known he would have likely done better if voters hadn't feared their vote for him would result in a worse case scenario).
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abingdoncomputers
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posted on November 13, 2000 08:04:38 AM new
The next logical step would be a full recount of the affected ballets. Nothing crooked or wrong about that. Just common sense. This was not the work of the Gore campaign, this was just the next logical step in a process to ensure the valid tabulation of the people's will.
The next logical step would be a full manual recount of ALL ballots in EVERY precint. There is a serious problem when just a few precints (in heavily Deocratic counties) are chosen for closer scrutiny. A manual recount should be statewide or it shouldn't be done at all.
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curlyg510
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posted on November 13, 2000 08:06:14 AM new
The Bush campaign had every right, as did the Gore people to ask for a recount of any three counties of thier chosing. They did not do this because then they are ADMITTING that the first and second recounts were in accurate, which is the OPPOSITE of what they are telling the public. They are really caught between a shrub and a hard place. But they cannot cry foul later when they had the chance but did not take action.
The fact that there was such a discrepancy between the two counts leads me to believe that there should be a recount in the whole state. I only wish for Gore to be elected fairly, and would be angered if Gore got in UNFAIRLY.
This is reminding me of what I have heard about the 60's. People feel thier right to -a- vote has been taken away, and they want to be heard. There are protests formed all over the US.
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krs
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posted on November 13, 2000 08:19:13 AM new
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7476-2000Nov12.html
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krs
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posted on November 13, 2000 08:20:16 AM new
dubyall
[ edited by krs on Nov 13, 2000 08:21 AM ]
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spazmodeus
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posted on November 13, 2000 11:01:21 AM new
[ edited by spazmodeus on Nov 13, 2000 11:12 AM ]
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savoyking
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posted on November 13, 2000 11:56:56 AM new
Jakemellon is right.
I am a democrat and I confess I hate republicians!!!!!!!!!!!!They are responsible for the bad weather, my computer going down the other day, they put funny tasting stuff in my food and send radio beams to my head. They also, most dastardly of all, mess up my spelling.
Humanity I love; it's people I can't stand
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dejavu
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posted on November 13, 2000 12:39:45 PM new
If they are going to recount Florida, why not recount the whole nation? Spoiled ballots and incorrect counts are NOT the sole province of the state of Florida. Every city or town has spoiled ballots. At least the ones in Maine have the good sense to mark the ballot spoiled in red ink. That means a new ballot was reissued for the voter.
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dejavu
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posted on November 13, 2000 12:55:39 PM new
savoyking~ I am sorry you hate Repulicans, but I am not going to waste a lot of time pondering your faults/dilemma.
WE are the people who brought a new business that you needed to your neighborhood, without government subsidy. WE made investments in capitol and equipment. WE made charitable donations.
WE employed people and gave them freedom from financial tyranny.
WE are the people who are heavily invested in Wall Street who probably support your retirement fund if you are not solely dependant on social security.
We are investment capitol. Our estates which Gore plans to tax go to plant & equipment investments.
Guess what? I am a human like you, maybe luckier but I like to think I made my own luck and worked $#%^&#%^ damn hard for it. Even my cleaning lady votes republican, know why? She works her butt off. She has no sympathy for stay at home welfare types. But we pay her a fair wage and pay her soc sec to boot. According to the books.
Put that in your hookah and smoke it.
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pattaylor
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posted on November 13, 2000 01:02:11 PM new
Good afternoon everyone!
Just a reminder: Please address the topic, not the individual.
Thanks for you cooperation.
Pat
[email protected]
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