posted on June 15, 2001 05:36:37 PM new
You have got a point dimview (I always enjoy your comments) too much attention on bidville and epier. There are tons of excellent B2C Auction sites which have excellent traffic and sell through in their own particular niche vertical. The pure C2C space is a battle that most of these sites are not going to win. Most charge no fee to list no fee to sell - an excellent business model ! As far as online advertising is concerned - that too is a dead model for generating income. Unless ebay or yahoo self destruct I beieve it is over for most of these sites unless they can target a specific vertical or marketing niche.
posted on June 15, 2001 08:11:14 PM new
I blame ebay...
Check out the Ebay board, ya can't reload fast enough sometimes to keep up with the messages!
Theres plenty to talk about regarding other online auctions. Successes, problems, advantages, glithes, fees, sale stories, feedback, problem sellers/bidders, all the same stuff that is discussed on ebay board.
I'd be willing to bet that 99 out of 100 posts made here at AW are on the ebay board.
If there were no ebay, or no ebay board, all these other sites AND all these other boards would be alot more active!
again with the tyops!
[ edited by rustybore on Jun 15, 2001 08:12 PM ]
posted on June 16, 2001 04:41:00 AM new
I think Irene is basically right. I also think it's AW's fault for the way they structure the message board. But it is their company and they can do as they wish.
It's also not user friendly for some of the smaller sites. I've only recently become a smaller site in AW's eyes.
We can't promote, which is fine. But we also can't originate threads and we don't have much more lattitude. Also, most sites, (including us) have our own Messageboards.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not blaming AW in a bad sense. Their policies may not be to my benefit but I'm sure over all they are good for them.
Also, perhaps Ebay pays AW??
Dimview, you have done some amazing compiling of info here on AW. It's a shame more folks don't see your work but I for one hope you keep it up!
posted on June 16, 2001 08:13:12 AM new
I cant speek for everone else but I have pretty well stoped comeing to this board. The boards at Bidville & Auctionsaloon are open boards you can talk about anything you like Auctionsaloon even has a place for you to advertise your auctions on other sites. The bidville board gets pretty interesting at time the auctionsaloon board is slow for now put will start jumping as the membership grows. I know most of the people I use to chat with here, is now on the Bidville board. I believe AW's membership has dropped big time and will keep dropping. As I have said before this is becomeing a ghost town and this board is to strict dont say this dont say that you can talk about this you cant talk about that. Most of the time the only debate you see is when someone has to defend why they said something. I may be wrong but I will probley have to edit or delete this post because someone will not like it and all I am doing is giveing my opinion.
posted on June 16, 2001 08:44:23 AM new
I've never liked the idea of participating in the chatboards of auction sites on which I have listings.
As an alternative to both the auction site chatboards and this constrained forum, I've been working on the creation of alt.marketing.online.other, an unmoderated USENET newsgroup devoted to the "other online auctions."
My proposal posted to alt.config several weeks ago has met the discussion requirement; the control newgroup message has to be disseminated, but that requires special headers that will allow news servers so configured to add it to their newsgroups file.
I kinda busy right now, so it won't be until sometime next week that I get a "roundtoit."
posted on June 16, 2001 05:35:31 PM new
Well, good luck with it, Dimview. However, I suspect you'll find that you'll get an incredible amount of spam with an unmoderated newsgroup. At least, that's been the case of any marketing-related unmoderated newsgroup that I've ever participated in or read (going back to 1994).
posted on June 17, 2001 07:26:43 AM new
stockticker >
Well, good luck with it, Dimview. However, I suspect you'll find that you'll get an incredible amount of spam with an unmoderated newsgroup.
The overwhelming majority of USENET newsgroups are unmoderated. There already is an unmoderated *.ebay newsgroup, which has hundreds of messages each day, and it is very much on-topic.
posted on June 17, 2001 09:18:41 AM new
Irene,
I've been immersed in Usenet for a similar period and have watched the spam posts grow over the years....
Like with any community, it's up to the members to keep the rif-raf out
I am active in small number of groups, mainly RV and home repair related, and we regularly and aggressively send spammers information to their ISP's and/or e-mail providers....usually, this tactic, along with ignoring trolls, causes the rif-raf to look elsewhere for greener pastures...
I have perused the ebay newsgroup periodically and have found it to be relatively spam-free, considering its popularity...
I hope dimview's group can attract a similar community of users....my best wishes to him for a successful newsgroup launch...
