geraldene
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posted on May 20, 2001 04:08:08 AM new
Who owns it? I'd like to hear more about this online option.
Thanks 
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dman3
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posted on May 20, 2001 07:15:28 AM new
Bottom of there site says copyright T BAY.com
guess that would be your frist clue right there...
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
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mtnmama
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posted on May 20, 2001 08:30:32 AM new
Ed Lechner and Gregg Rose, so I am told. They used to own Goldsauction.com.
Ed bought the trademark TBAY AUCTION.com and is using it. They are not affiliated in anyway with tbayauctions.com which is a totally free site to sellers and buyers, although they are both located in the Tampa Bay Area.
tbayauctions.com is owned by John Tillman, a sweetheart of a man! Very smart and very honest.
This is not meant as a promotion for either site. It's just fact as I know it and opinion as I see it.
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dimview
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posted on May 20, 2001 08:34:56 AM new
I must be dense or something.
I looked at the domain registrations for both the other day and never made the connection that TBAY was referring to Tampa Bay.
LOL.
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mharrisred
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posted on May 20, 2001 01:02:35 PM new
mtnmama...how did you find out who the owners are?....I know Ed owns t-bay but I didn't think Gregg was directly involved in SYI....
[ edited by mharrisred on May 20, 2001 01:10 PM ]
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AuctionBoss
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posted on May 20, 2001 02:10:30 PM new
This is just my opinion, but I wouldn't sell they again. Gold's just closed up shop without telling us, they loyal sellers. What makes you think that they wouldn't do the same thing again?? Just remember Murphy's Law. If it happened once already, chances are it will happen again.
I will still be listing my auctions on the following sites:
eDeal (still not a bad marketplace)
ePier (do know how long though)
Auctionweiser (been receiving more bids on my items)
Fairmarket (do know if they will be in
business to much longer though)
Tbay (auctions do pretty well)
Haggle (a classic auction site that is dedicated to computers and electronics)
I try to use sales tatics that work, and the theory that strengh in numbers does work. That is why I use multiple auctions sites. Most major sellers I thoink would do the same.
A.B.
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mtnmama
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posted on May 20, 2001 02:57:12 PM new
I think I may be mistaken about Gregg Rose, but I do know that he contacted tbayauctions.com several times trying to negotiate deals, merge, etc to no avail. The man who owns tbayauctions.com wants to keep his site totally free and he does have a nice site.
TBAY AUCTION is not in any way affiliated with tbayauctions.com, although the names are similar. This may be one reason why they had to name the site SellYourItem???
I'm positive Ed owns TBAY AUCTION though. How I found out is confidential. I have my sources
Please note you can tell the difference in sites by looking at the way the sites present their copyrights. One is TBAY AUCTION and the other is tbayauctions with an s at the end and both words connected.
dman, how come your advertising your own auction site?
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mharrisred
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posted on May 20, 2001 03:00:15 PM new
Believe me, I can understand anyone's reluctance to invest time and effort into another new site especially one that looks and feels so much like the old Gold's. My understanding is that this site is not owned by Gregg but is leasing the Gold's software that many of us found so appealing. I have talked to Gregg in the past and believe him when he says he is really sorry about the way Gold's collaspsed. I think he believed he had more time than he had and that investors were around the corner. Gold's didn't just stop, their provider shut them down(speculation would be for lack of payment). We all know that ebay is still #1 and will be for a long time to come. Sellers cannot afford to put all their eggs at any one new site, they must continue to search for the one which suits them best. That is if you are unhappy with the ebay program.
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mharrisred
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posted on May 20, 2001 03:04:16 PM new
Well I can do a WHOIS search of domain names and get Ed as the owner, I just wondered if you had seen Gregg somewhere listed. I do know the tech person and the support person at SYI are the same from Gold's. But other than that, I don't have a clear picture of any other Gold's connection.
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mtnmama
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posted on May 20, 2001 03:14:25 PM new
Ed was the co-owner of Golds. That is a big connection.
What happens when they can't pay their bill again? (and this was reported in the paper) They were shut out after several months of nonpayment. How long would our ISP's wait for payment before cutting us off? Not long I would imagine. Investors would be fools to invest in them again. They showed they could not succeed the first time around.
JMHO and not to be construed as absolute truth, because we can only speculate.
Who's the support person and tech person?
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mtnmama
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posted on May 20, 2001 03:19:41 PM new
Never mind, I know who the support person is. One look at their chats and you can plainly see it's the same group that was there before.
Some users are very nice sincere people, while others aren't. I don't think I want to go back to another site exactly like the same one I just left.
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mharrisred
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posted on May 20, 2001 03:19:57 PM new
Sheila who was the main support person at Gold's, and Roger is the Tech.
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mharrisred
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posted on May 20, 2001 03:26:40 PM new
If you or others don't want to come back, that's fine. We are just putting the name out here. Come by, take a look and sell if it feels right, don't if you have reservations. Yep, a lot of the same folks there that were at Gold's. 6 months without a site and we are still together. Loyalty like that can't be bought.
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mtnmama
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posted on May 20, 2001 07:00:36 PM new
6 months and still loyal?
Most of the users were at the site we can't talk about anymore and they declared their devoted loyalty to that site as well. These same users were at DutchBid, Bidville, ebay and others. Such loyalty, if declared to me, I wouldn't care to have. That's not called loyal. That's called not putting all your eggs in one basket.
I wish you all the luck in the world and I wish sellyouritem luck as well. They were doing well as Golds but unfortunately someone evidently forgot to pay the bills. Life goes on.
As for me? I make my money from ebay. No problem putting SellYourItem's name out here either. It's a free enterprise system isn't it?
Have a great night!
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mharrisred
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posted on May 21, 2001 06:06:48 AM new
You're the one that said it looked liked the same ole folks from golds chatting at SYI..that is why I said the Loyalty line...and yep..we did try other places after our favorite place went down..and yes we continue to list at Ebay, 321, bidville as well. But I stand by my statement that the Gold's members I have come across are a most Loyal bunch. Now this topic seems to have finished being productive so...Bye Bye...
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vinnysknives
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posted on May 21, 2001 06:18:36 AM new
Ok I took a look at sellyou item and The catagory I sell knives, has 1 item up for sale. While I like trying new sites this one is still in the BEta stages. Plus I am already the dominant knife seller on Epier and that alone has been a struggle. I wish your site good luck and I will look at it again.
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mtnmama
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posted on May 21, 2001 06:36:33 AM new
Someone is getting way off topic here. I believe the question was "who owns it?" It wasn't bash others for not liking the site or not wanting to be on the site. Please refrain from bashing for answering your off topic questions. I will not again do that type of thing here.
If you would care to take it to email so be it, but I'm not going to put myself in jeopardy by arguing with you about loyalty and those I know who have absolutely none except for the word FREE LISTINGS.
You can do a search on whois to find out the information about this site. If you want to know if users are selling, etc. I suggest you register at the site and ask at the chats. I'm sure you'll get pretty much the same answers there as you would get from users here.
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dimview
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posted on May 21, 2001 08:35:47 AM new
As a seller my objective is to locate a cost-effective, traffic-effective and sell-through-effective auction site and then list on items on it.
So its doesn't matter all that much to me what happened to cause the demise of their predecessors.
More important, I believe, is that an auction site provide buyers and sellers with some basic information -- including the number of auctions listed in total and by category, a "closed auction" list that includes all "closed auctions" -- so that a seller can make some conclusion about how cost-effective, traffic-effective and sell-through-effective a particular auction site really is.
Bottomline.
As a SELLER I want to SELL stuff; not keep reading e-mails telling me my items have been relisted over and over again.
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geraldene
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posted on May 21, 2001 02:32:39 PM new
Great information, thanks
I feel also it is important to have competition in the marketplace. Good luck to you all!!!
eboom
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dimview
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posted on May 21, 2001 02:38:44 PM new
geraldene >
I feel also it is important to have competition in the marketplace.
Absolutely. And if you take a look at some of the alternative auction sites that are charging you'll find their fee schedule is exactly the same as eBay. All they're doing is waiving the listing fee for a few months.
That is NOT competition.
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dman3
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posted on May 21, 2001 04:18:18 PM new
HUH Who asked how come im advertizeing my own auction site...
DMAN Does not have an auction site to advertize.
Dman sells on yahoo bidville ebay edeal epier and amazon like many others.
I have a website where I link to my edeal and ebay auctions.
IF I have my owe auction site its news to me and I wish someone would send me some profits from it I would spend far less hours listing my item for pennies. !!!
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
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dimview
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posted on May 21, 2001 04:36:12 PM new
dman3's website is listed in the SIGNATURE of his message, which is the proper place for pointers and such, at least on Usenet.
On Usenet, however, it follows a double-dash "--" so that there's no confusing the issue; looks like AuctionWatch sigs don't include the seperator.
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mtnmama
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posted on May 21, 2001 07:48:00 PM new
When I clicked on his signature line, it appeared that he was running some kind of auction site, as this is what he says:
Dman & Company Online Auctions, sales and services
So, not even thinking about links I stupidly assumed that it was an online auction.
Sorry for the confusion.
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