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posted on January 13, 2001 11:19:56 PM new
It is the sellers who "make" or "break" the auction sites. If we stick together and get a large number of sellers to join us, it just might be possible to convince an auction site such as ePier or one of the other relatively new auction sites to consider giving us lifetime benefits (suggested by Fekooper) for making their auction site a success. There's lots of free web space and we should start a seller's nonprofit organization. Just from reading a few of the thousands of posts, there are large number of sellers unhappy with eBay and Yahoo, and other auction charging sites and I am sure they would love to join us. Just think if we had a group of a few thousand sellers, we might have a little leverage, as there is power in numbers.
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mrjoker
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posted on January 14, 2001 07:13:51 AM new
rememberback take a look at the ceo pledge on lowestbids.com. they are doing exactly that.
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posted on January 14, 2001 08:15:30 AM new
mrjoker... Thanks for the info on lowestbidding auction site. I did indeed go in and read their pledge regarding LIFETIME FREE SELLLER BENEFITS. I was impressed and maybe this is the site that all of us should put our efforts in to become successful. I know I have buyers who will follow me once I let them know where I have landed - I am sure most sellers have devoted buyers who will also follow them!
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mrjoker
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posted on January 14, 2001 08:17:43 AM new
i agree with you. however if you read a lot of the posts here youll see that people dont want to download their application although tomorrow that wont be necessary as the ceo said that they will be implementing their web based function.
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posted on January 14, 2001 10:07:44 AM new
....yes, downloading Bidbar was a big pain, nevertheless well worth the effort to get free listing fees with no commissions forever! I think they will do away with bidbar soon. Hope others take advantage of lowestbids.
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capefeartrading
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posted on January 14, 2001 10:50:58 AM new
Try AuXpal! I've moved some of my auctions there! Customer Service is GREAT! They have added a link button so you can tell buyers where you are (AuXpal) and also you can transfer feedback! E-mail them about request for FREE FOR LIFETIME... and they will respond! Try it - it can't hurt! Of all the ones I have looked at - I like AuXpal the best! Very, very user-friendly for sellers AND buyers! I don't like lowestbids - it has too much on there going on - too busy! - too much to look at - also, don't like the bidbar at all! Take a look at AuXpal! If a bunch of us go there and download our link buttons to our current/on-going auctions - buyers will be able to find us AND AuXpal! 
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mrjoker
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posted on January 14, 2001 10:55:09 AM new
capefear try lowestbids tomorrow when you dont have to download the bidbar to use the site.
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capefeartrading
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posted on January 14, 2001 10:58:03 AM new
Hi mrjoker! Yes, I know they were going to be making this change. I will give them a look for sure, but right now AuXpal has my vote! 
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mrjoker
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:00:19 AM new
im not too sure about auxpal. lots of listings, but not a whole lot of other activity. plus i heard somewhere that about 90% of the listings are from three users.
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stockticker
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:02:43 AM new
This thread reminds me of a vaudville routine or a radio commercial with a lot of bad acting. ROFLMAO!
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jwpc
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:05:23 AM new
I just visited EPIER for the first time, it is an attractive site, although I saw very few bids.
I decided to give it a try with some "test" items. WATCH, there are some glitches, I posted 2 items, and one posted 3 times all by itself!!! Had to go in and close 2 or the three duplicates.
I'm not holding my breath regarding this site, just don't see any sales activity, and I checked many categories. But, time will tell; it is an attractive site.
I think my biggest problem now it trying to remember om what auctions I have posted to! I basically know what I have posted, as I use the same test items on most sites, to get a good test of the site.
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jwpc
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:07:33 AM new
I'll give lowestbidding a try as soon as they remove the bidbar thing.
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capefeartrading
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:08:50 AM new
I don't know about 90% being approx. 3 users. I am one of them and currently have only listed 7 items - with 93,000+ auctions - those 3 people sure have done alot of listing! 
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mrjoker
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:11:21 AM new
it was either auxpal or another site. not sure which it was. when i looked there, i saw a lot of items from the same users. but you have to start somewhere.
as for lowestbids, the ceo came on here yesterday and said that starting tomorrow people can use the site without having to download the bidbar.
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molly001
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:12:19 AM new
capefeartrading - I just emailed AuxPal this morning about whether they would consider free fees for life. That and the search engine thingy fix would pretnear put them way up there! You said they responded to your email about the fees - well?
I know I'm pretty impressed with them so far.
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forshoppin
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:15:35 AM new
molly... I emailed AuXpal asking them about the search information yesturday. Here is the response I received.
Hi Loraine,
Most search engines can take anywhere from 2-9 months before new websites
get included in their searches. Unfortunately, it will take some time for
all the engines to find us.
AuXpal Customer Service
http://www.auxpal.com
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capefeartrading
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:25:37 AM new
Hi molly001! No response yet about the fee thingy - I asked yesterday for a link to my auctions (other than the referral one for $) - they did not respond until they had ACUTUALLY ADDED IT! So, I don't know - maybe there some kind of legalities or something! But I bet and hope they will do the same as lowestbids. As soon as I get something, I will surely respond back here! 
As far as the search thing - all I can do is copy and paste our links into our on-going/current auctions - where ever they may be - "IF WE BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME"!
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forshoppin
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:39:05 AM new
Yahoo didn't grow by advertising. Yahoo grew by word of mouth. I never once saw the auction site advertised on the front page when that was my start page. The only reason it was on the list was the fact that it starts with "A". I saw them push email, games, etc but never once saw AUCTIONS!!!!! I used to list a few items on eBay every month and then when the buyers would want more of my crafties I would send them to Yahoo where I had the bulk listed. And 90% of those buyers had no clue that Yahoo had an auction site. So if we the sellers built Yahoo, why can't we the sellers build another site the same way?
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capefeartrading
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:41:53 AM new
EXACTLY !!!!!  
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capefeartrading
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:49:57 AM new
I have copied and pasted this from e-mail I just received from AuXpal regarding Seller's Lifetime Free Benefits:
This question has come up a few times today. I have forwarded the email to
Dr. Orlando (our CEO). I am certain that he will respond favorably to the
request.
Terrence
AuXpal Customer Service
http://www.auxpal.com
Hope this helps!!!
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lowestbids
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posted on January 14, 2001 11:55:32 AM new
Hi everyone.
Tomorrow our registration will be only 2 short pages. Then you can add your items, only one page their too and then upload your images and your done. Bidbar is no longer mandatory but is optional. You can add it in the future if you want. It is your choice. (It works best with D.S.L and faster computers (someday we will all get these, we hope)
Also blinking icons will be gone and new home page should be ready in about a week. Thank you for all the suggestions as always.
Bob
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capefeartrading
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posted on January 14, 2001 12:04:17 PM new
Funny thing - when I copied and pasted the e-mail from AuXpal, lowestbids comes in with their thread! But - competition is good! I will give a look at the "new" lowestbids tomorrow evening - but right now, by choice between the two is AuXpal!
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Rememberback
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posted on January 14, 2001 01:49:41 PM new
I wouldn't mind giving AuxPal the same courtesy of attempting to sell on their site if they would give the same pledge that Lowestbids has given of lifetime free seller fees. Until then, my loyalty and selling efforts will go to the site that offers the most...which in my opinion at the present moment is Lowestbids. I would like to have some reassurance that any auction site that I put my whole heart and soul into is not going to do the same thing Yahoo did!
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molly001
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posted on January 14, 2001 02:11:22 PM new
forshoppin - Yes, after I posted something about the search engine, I read that you had already done it. Oops, but I guess more is better than none, eh? I added a search engine site for them to look into which might help speed up the process and they told me about the one they were already using.
Yes, what we all have to do is let our buyers know of our alternative sites. Just like any site that has progressed, it is by word of mouth. It won't happen overnight but IT WILL HAPPEN! I'm confident in that.
capefeartrading - I got the same type of response regarding the fees. I, too, will post when a reply is received (unless you have already done so).
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breezydough
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posted on January 14, 2001 02:42:49 PM new
I just don't know, is it realistic of us to ask for something for free forever?? Nothing stands still or stays the same in this world of ours. What about Charter memberships get free forever, like where the first blue million or so people who sign up and actually list, get free forever guarenteed??
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jwpc
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posted on January 14, 2001 03:16:00 PM new
breezydough
I TOTALLY agree with you - demanding everything be free for life, sounds like a welfare system to me.
Sure, I like free too, but I wouldn't demand a business person guarantee a service be free for life - there is no way to know what the future holds and what changes a site might need to make. I believe the owner has the right to adjust with changing times, just like the user has the right to go elsewhere.
Guess it is good I don't own such a site, as I would feel like saying to the seller: "Okay, I'll guarantee our site will be free for life - AND you guarantee you will only post here for life." I mean it is a 2 ways street.
Sorry, just being the devil's advocate, but I don't see making such demands is reasonable, and personally I'd rather question the business sense of a CEO who would bite on such bait.
Just my opinion.
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jwpc
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posted on January 14, 2001 03:52:35 PM new
IS LOWESTBIDS.COM REALLY FREE?
Based on some of your enthusiasm about Lowestbid.com Site, I went over to investigate.
I "thought" this was a FREE site, but I encountered these things, which I find confusing - while reading through some of their information I encountered the mention of fees, and click over, and this is a direct copy & paste from the site:
"Single Buyer & Single Seller $1.00
Single Buyer & Multiple Sellers $1.00
Multiple Buyers & Multiple Sellers $1.00
Multiple Buyers & Single Seller $1.00
Listing an Item in Two Different Auctions $1.75 "
Then also in the information I ran into this sentence, which doesn't make sense unless there are fees or fees are planned. It says:
"Items not properly categorized in their listing will be moved by LowestBids.com to the proper listing location. No penalty fees apply unless the item is removed from listing because it is prohibited, in which case the Seller forfeits the listing fees for the item."
How can a seller forfeit a fee, if there is no fee?
Both of these things, and there may be more, make me question the "freeness" or the continued "freeness" of the site!
I am not saying the site should be free, but it says it is, and then I encountered references to fees - which I find confusing, and questionable.
I'd love to hear you users explanations on these statements from Lowestbid.com.
[ edited by jwpc on Jan 14, 2001 03:55 PM ]
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dman3
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posted on January 14, 2001 04:04:15 PM new
I dont use lowestbid and im not registered there.
I know they have made claims of never chargeing a listing fee but they I believe they do charge for features .
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
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rnrgroup
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posted on January 14, 2001 04:33:19 PM new
A new site that looks very grass roots - being built from scratch by "people" not a corporation, and might be a place for those who want to join in building in a ground roots way is
http://www.pootah.com
I like what I have seen, and like the way they have responded to questions. It is still in Beta, and they are probably very open to suggestions and user input.
I still think everyone should add the SmoothSale button to every auction, and every place they sell. It just makes sense to me that all your sales should have a way to be linked to you, and the SmoothSale tool looks to me to be the most viable way to do that. -Rosalinda
TAGnotes - daily email synopsis about the Online Auction Industry
http://www.topica.com/lists/tagnotes
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dreamgirl
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posted on January 14, 2001 05:04:23 PM new
I like Auxpal thus far. It is soooooo easy to list on. About as easy as Yahoo. Haven't put a lot there yet. Don't have the time right now. Will add as things close on Yahoo. It's relatively new but looks professional and the more of us that go there then the more we can expect our customers to start visiting. Just tell all your customers from now on that you are building up your listings there. It may take a while but we can make it happen. Just like we did for Yahoo.
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