posted on February 27, 2001 10:07:19 PM new
I started selling on www.Onsale.com prior to yahoo buying it in late 1997. It was a great site and yahoo did add to it in many ways
and I sold for several years, but, it has all changed. I had twelve auctions canceled today. TOS alledged violations...I sell jewelry, I had
a high and long feed back...1 negative from 1999....go figure. I emailed for a refund of the listing fees since they canceled and didn't
fulfil the contract of providing an auction-they answered with an unsigned email..."no refund"...I responded..."I will dispute the charges
with my credit card issuer and see you in small claims court for an local judge's opinion"-to be continued.
Four years and locked out of mail too.
I recommend no one having their mail at yahoo; they literally locked me out of the mail, fortunately I had it forwarded when they
started charging listing fees since I began to distust their business judgement, so that's not lost...conclusion....don't trust yahoo!! Find
another auction site to support and expect it to eventually be bought by an unscrupulous company like yahoo.
Zack
posted on February 28, 2001 12:27:44 AM new
This becomes more unbelievable every day!!!
The YaFools don't even realize when they're in self-destruct mode.
Do you have any idea WHAT TOS you might have violated?????????????
Even eGreed AUTOMATICALLY REFUNDS FEES when they cancel an auction. I really do think YaWho Auction is being run by young-and-stupid, clueless kids without ANY prudent supervision at all.
Something like that producer's son who just ran down and killed the group of college students out in Santa Barbara, California.
I know exactly what you are talking about, when Yahell cancelled us for TOS, they didn't refund any fees, and closed our mail account also. They also closed our PayDirect account, and I finally had to call them regarding the funds in the PayDirect account as I couldn't get into it to recover the funds there.
ALSO, I can’t leave feedback for the straggling payers who bought under my original YaHell ID, BUT the buyers can leave feedback for me! It is leaving my buyers with a bad taste since I can’t login through my old ID to leave feedback for them, but they can for me -–they don't understand. If someone left me a neg, I couldn’t even respond!
The MOST deplorable part of this is our cancellation related to TOS, (i.e.) web site link in our ads. IF this rule was applied across the board on Yahell I wouldn’t be as incensed and aggravated about it, but YaHell seems to apply the rule when the “spirit” moves them. They cancel some, and let others run without any balance or impartiality in their decisions.
As I have said before on this board, since my experience with YaHell, I would NEVER again have an e-mail address via a given auction, NOR would I have a payment system connected to any auction.
As someone else said, even eGreed returns one’s money if they cancel an auction, and they certainly don’t cancel your account or close your BillPoint (although I don’t use BillPoint) any longer, after the problem with YaHell occurred.
posted on February 28, 2001 08:02:04 AM new
While I haven't personally been affected negatively by the YaFool's arbitrary DC of accounts and services, I have been distressed to read of the problems many have experienced by their inept actions and decisions. Is there no way you all could band together and file a class action suit against YaFool practices of breaking agreements without giving people warning or recourse? They need to be made to become aware of the injury they cause people through their dictatorial actions.
posted on February 28, 2001 08:03:20 AM new
Another classic example of Yahoo's GESTOPO tactics. Those who do not listen, do not later deserve sympathy. Everyone who reads this board has been warned!
posted on February 28, 2001 10:49:15 AM new
deichen
You make a lot of sense on these boards, but I tend to disagree with this one.
>>>>>"Those who do not listen, do not later deserve sympathy. "<<<<<
I think it is a shame and not someone's fault when they are unable to see that when Yahoo said they wanted to get the junk off of their auctions, They were talking about them!
Please don't misunderstand. I am not trying to demean anyone or anyone's auctions.
I am addressing Yahoo's apparent policies. it seems pretty obvious from press staements that Yahoo wanted the sellers who left to do so, and I would guess this is how they are cleaning house of the ones that did not leave voluntarirly(sp?)
Their new customer service motto should be, "I like to help you out..... How did you get in?"
[ edited by jimhhow on Feb 28, 2001 10:50 AM ]
posted on February 28, 2001 01:13:20 PM new
Yahoo has been on a rampage since this listing fee started. My account was closed and all of my auctions cancelled on 2/9/01. This was the day before all of my hundreds of auctions would have closed. Many of my items had bids and all the sales were lost because of Yahoo. I lost hundreds of dollars!! I could not access any auction information or Yahoo e-mail. In addition I had auctions that closed the night before that I had not yet e-mailed the winners. All credits in my account were lost.
I had a postive feedback number of close to 1000 with no negative feedback. The only one that gave me a negative was Yahoo itself when they closed my account. Calls and e-mails to Yahoo were useless. Form letters and answers with no real human involvement or comman sense were given.
With the cancellation of my account all of this hard work has been needlessly lost. I can understand canceling an auction because it accidentally violated the terms of service. I have read and reread the terms of service and some are open to interpretation. People that read them may interpret them different ways. There have also been many revisions during the past two months. Some of my auctions are automatically relisted which may make them OK the first time and then in violation as the rules changed.
I should would like to see the old Yahoo auctions back.
The seller formally known as RROY222
posted on February 28, 2001 02:14:52 PM new
Jimhhow:
You are right, maybe I am in a bad mood! It's just that several Yahoo cheerleaders keep saying how great it is...blah, blah, blah. I guess I was caught at a weak moment.
posted on February 28, 2001 02:27:21 PM new
ROY222
I'm curious. Why were your auctions closed?
Did they even try to explain?
I took a look at your closed auctions and the only thing that may have ticked yahoo off was the paypal banner. Was that against the rules or something?
posted on February 28, 2001 04:36:27 PM new
I am CONFUSED! I thought Brian Fitzgerald was boasting how Yahoo's strict TOS is doing good at yahoo, kicking off bad sellers who break the rules,and also bragged soemthing to the effect of how we at least tell the wrongdoers WHICH tos they broke.
Yet I havent read ONE seller who gotten a reason of which TOS they violated. I dont remember which place Fitzgerald bragged about this, BUT shouldnt we all get together and give the truth to that place that had the article, saying what he is saying is a lie?
