posted on April 3, 2002 11:47:33 AM new
Do you have an email with Yahoo; use them for bill pay, account management? Do you depend on Yahoo for income from auctions? WARNING!Yahoo may suspend your account immediately and without warning like they did to me. You will not be able to access most of your information. If you have credits on auctions, they too will vanish. Your whole reputation, even if you have hundreds of feedbacks, gone for good! Don't think it coud happen to you? I didn't think it could happen to me either. I'm careful not list illegal items or items that are clearly against Yahoo's TOS, but they still zapped me. I can't even get a human to respond to me. They have monkey's that keep sending me the same response. Imagine if you had a major problem with Yahoo and all you got was a monkey that replied! Not good. You really risk a lot by dealing with Yahoo. Don't get caught in the same situation I'm in. I had loved Yahoo and used it for everything, now it's all gone. I would like to see all of us ban together and boycott Yahoo, and don't support their advertisers. We need a reliable, and trustworthy second tier auction site, and Yahoo is clearly not it. Here's a message they sent me, "Please note that this action has been recorded by Yahoo! and that subsequent violations could result in suspension of your rights to use Yahoo! Auctions."I did not make a subsequent violation, how could I, I was suspended right away without warning. Does this company sound trustworthy or reliable? I'm spreading the word to family and friends about my experience about Yahoo's untrustworthness, you may want to too. If you own stock in this company you are playing dangerously. Auctions are one of Yahoo's only main revenue sources yet they keep suspending it's large sellers.
posted on April 3, 2002 12:14:33 PM new
Another waring to anyone who sells Rated R videos or DVD's.
Here's a message sent to me about Yahoo's laughable TOS:
"Adult material is strictly prohibited on Yahoo! Auctions. Images of people interacting in an explicitly sexual manner, nude or partially nude, despite gender, is not considered suitable for our younger audience to view."
Although Rated R movies don't have explicit sex, neither did mine and I got axed. Yahoo never claimed to see the movie, nor asked for further information. According to them, if it sounds like your item violates their terms in "spirit" they can suspend you.
posted on April 3, 2002 12:52:30 PM new
sorry to know it happened to you. it's absolutely WRONG of Yahoo to suspend the whole ID and have a user lose everything outside auctions.
Sometimes I really think Yahoo is run by a few ignorant and stuck up people.
Please call them and explain your situation. You might need to hold on for 45 minutes, but they might take a closer look at what's happened
posted on April 3, 2002 01:10:46 PM new
They should be calling me to get back my business. I don't really need Yahoo, they are easily replaceable. I just don't want what happened to me to happen to anyone else. When the advertisers find out I'm canceling my account with them because of their association with Yahoo we'll see how big Yahoo's balls really are.
posted on April 3, 2002 01:49:22 PM new
quickdraw ... it's sad what happened to you, but what makes you think you're withdrawl from Yahoo will have an effect on their advertisers? I doubt anyone will even notice you're gone, except for the customers you managed to please.
It will take a lot more complaints from a lot more people to get even a small rise out of these idiots.
posted on April 3, 2002 02:02:52 PM new
RB, I realize they won't listen to just one person, but statistically, if one person takes an action, there are 1000 people who are also doing so. If I were to do nothing because I felt nothing could be changed being the lone one, statistically, there would be 1000 people who are also doing nothing about it because they felt they are the lone one.
If businesses choose to seek new customers rather than keeping the one's they have, it will cost them dearly. The companies that I have elt with in the past who go out of their way to keep me are also the #1 companies in their field and profitle, while companies who didn't service me properly are losing money.
So it's a business decision they all have to make, whether they want to be #1 or be lagging behind.
posted on April 3, 2002 02:43:52 PM new
I know how you feel quickdraw. They did the same to me. All auctions were closed and I lost all credits. I am just glad I did not have any money in their payment service. That would have been lost too.
It is very frustrating and agrevating. I tried for months and sent e-mails, made calls, and sent letters too to try to get an explanation and get re-instated. No luck getting it reopened. My high positive feedback rating was lost too of course. I don't think it will ever get as high as it was.
What was your Yahoo I.D.?
posted on April 3, 2002 02:44:03 PM new
In fact, statistically most people are apathetic. If I had a buck for every person who said they were going to quit eBay, for example, and who didn't, I would be a rich man.
Face it quickdraw --- you are nothing to Yahoo, just like me
posted on April 3, 2002 03:21:49 PM new
The sad thing is that RB is right. Yahoo doesn't care. Sad but very true. Yahoo used to be run by coc*y jerks and still is, I guess. The attitude is there will be many to replace you.
Gee, Blairwitch why don't you come and defend Yahoo for these people. You do such a fine job of suc*ing up to Yahoo.
posted on April 5, 2002 11:27:17 PM new
It's too bad Yahoo chooses to drive their business into the ground, fact is, companies who aren't customer focused lose lots of money.
In Business Week, Yahoo is rated in the bottom 10 for worst shareholder returns. On the opposite spectrum is a company in the top 10 who is customer focused, Office Depot.
Is Yahoo really blowing off both its feet? Well, Yahoo is ranked 476 out of 500 in Performance Ranking. Here's the grades:
Sales Growth 1 year- F; Sales Growth 3 Years A; Profit Growth 1 Year- F; Profit Growth 3 Years- F; Net Margin- F; Return on Equity- F.
Not only am I "nothing to Yahoo" but obviously Profits are not important to Yahoo. It's only a matter of time before Yahoo goes bankrupt.
posted on April 6, 2002 12:46:00 PM new
Quickdraw29,
Your last post is very interesting and makes a lot of sense. I have never understood the management at Yahoo. What a mess. I am very sorry what has happened to you and to others. No one deserves to be treated this poorly without any explanation.
posted on April 6, 2002 02:33:23 PM new
I advise everyone to set up an additional account on YaFool while you still can, that way if YaFools cancel one you still have another. You may have to use another name though.
posted on April 6, 2002 07:33:31 PM new
quickdraw ... I don't understand. First you tell us that Yahoo is bad news and now you offer suggestions on how people can keep their Yahoo account active.
Why not just "hurt" them where they will feel it the most and abandon the venue completely? There are much better auction venues out there who treat their members with a little more respect.
posted on April 6, 2002 08:04:31 PM new
Yahoo has various things you can do for free, they do not get a dime from you from these things. Fantasy sports and chat boards are two examples. By using these two things you don't support Yahoo, and you have nothing at risk if they went bankrupt.
I definitely don't mean to keep supporting them in anything where they receive money from you or where you have important information that could vanish.
posted on April 6, 2002 08:24:49 PM new
More and more of the former free things on Yahoo ( and the internet in general ) are starting to get price tags these days. There are now 2 special email packages that cost money and the personals now cost as well for instance. Yahoo is finally starting to bring in some money with it's auction and warehouse and other enterprises. Yahoo will be around for a long time and earn more and more money. The auction might be scrapped someday but Yahoo on the whole is doing better and better, IMHO.
posted on April 6, 2002 08:36:48 PM new
But who's paying for these things? Yahoo is charging for things that very few will ever want to pay. Yahoo has so many members because it is essentially free. Yahoo can not afford to lose 3/4 of its members, its advertising revenues would drop through the floor. So now it it depends on extra revenue on things barely anyone wants. It's not a winning strategy for a company that depends on high volume.
posted on April 6, 2002 09:30:50 PM new
eBay and Yahoo have a lot in common. They slowly work things in on the sellers then the free things start costing money. More and more of the good old free internet services are now costing money and many people are accepting that fact. The free websites aren't worth a darn anymore and these is almost no free internert access like there was a few short years ago. It's a slow but sure change from free to fee on the Net.
You can throw up a television antenna and get some free local stations but it's worth it pay $30 or more to get cable TV or it wouldn't be so popular. The same trend is coming to the Net.
posted on April 9, 2002 01:11:23 AM new
>>"It's a slow but sure change from free to fee on the Net."<<
I'm with quickdraw on this one. Most of these web sites think you are going to spend big $ for impractical services.
I have to pay for internet access. That's a given. I chose to pay for image hosting because it's convenient. I pay Ebay because people buy my items there. That's it. I will pay no more!
I don't pay to use AuctionWatch because the price is unreasonable. I won't pay to use Yahoo because the bids just aren't there. I still have alot of credits left and then I'm done.
Why would anyone pay for Yahoo email? If you have internet access you usually have free email that comes with it. The majority of internet sites will find that once they start to charge a fee for services, their customer base will just go away. People are getting nickled and dimed to death now days and it has to stop somewhere.
posted on April 9, 2002 08:27:12 AM new
The free services are being pruned down to extreme barebones setups. For a small additional fee you get more storage space, bells & whistles, acess, etc, etc.
Many people pay for access to web sites. That's ignoring the web's biggest money maker, porn, there are also gaming sites that attract 100,000's paying users worldwide, dating services, webhosting, etc.
TV came on the scene to the masses in the early 1950's ( 1950 only 400,000 TV sets sold and 1951 4 million sets sold ). It was totally free except for the set and either rabbit ears or an antenna for the roof. That changed in the mid 1970's with the arrivial of cable TV and satelites TV. Only a few bucks a month and you got a lot more channels and perfect TV reception. Many fought paying anything for something that was free and a tiny percentage still do. HBO, Showtime, Disney, Playboy Channel, etc were added as pay add-ons and grew popular. Dish services came with special packages. The average TV cable bill may now easily exceed $40/month.
These changes did not come overnight but slowly and that is what is happening now to the web.
