posted on September 16, 2000 07:23:24 AM new
It's about TIME Yahoo! got RID of the 'respond' feature in feedback files as to multiple responses! Idiots are using it to respond, respond, respond, over and over. These mentally challenged, unbalanced, poor excuse for human beings, enjoy trashing the files of people who have worked hard to gain their auction reputations.
I've had these demented individuals bid on my auctions and win them just for the purpose of trashing my file? And NO, I did NOT deserve this unfounded attack on my name, and character. Most of them I've NEVER dealt with, or they have multiple ID's with BAD files, and/or perhaps I canceled ONE of their OTHER ID's from my auction! These sick people enjoy doing such things. Yahoo! is a playground for such IDIOTS! In fact, Yahoo! is becoming a playground for everyone who is mentally unbalanced.
When I report them to Yahoo for slander or libelous comments they put in my file, (because such things ARE a violation of their TOS), they choose NOT to uphold the TOS in these matters? I get the same STUPID, STUPID, STUPID response they always give about being 'fair' to both parties? What has this got to do with being "fair"? Are the CC persons at Yahoo! so blind they can't see the truth? Any fool can read the files and see what is going on! Usually these idiots are (new) persons and they haven't a thing to lose. They can just change ID's, or they already have multiple ID's. What about those of us they trash, who took years to build a reputable reputation? We can't abandon OUR ID's so easily, and start all over, can we? Those of us who ARE bringing business to Yahoo!? Do we not deserve SOME consideration?
Yahoo!, to put it simply, has NO customer care for people who deserve respect! When they decide to give these free roaming mentally disabled "humans" the right to come to THEIR site, and commit acts of SLANDER, as well as multiple LIES about anyone, they are just as bad as these fools!
Has anyone else tried to get the unholly Yahoo! to lift a finger to stop this type of activity? And have you had any luck getting across to Yahoo! how stupid this feature is, and for letting it continue in this manner? Why, why, why, is it necessary to let a person repond endlessly when there has been NO comment made to respond to?
posted on September 16, 2000 03:00:18 PM new
I agree with you 100%. I have no idea what the point is to continualy let people berate each other.
I am new to Yahoo only because I hesitated a long while after I read what some of these crazies post. I think Yahoo has a lot going for it but it has to tighten its belt in a lot of areas. This is a major flaw in their system. It hurts both buyers and sellers, but sellers can get blown out of the water by these have no life nuts.
posted on September 17, 2000 12:17:44 PM new
Speaking of the unbalanced, I have this re-occuring problem with Paypal in that people who type my email address in and don't verify with my last name, wind up sending money into the far reaches of cyberspace but not to me because they make a typo in my email address. With the font most people use Zeros look like Capital Ohs and then .net often gets entered .com.
I send them this message when I suspect something has gone wrong (because it seems to them it went ok...they even get an email verification from Paypal...the only thing different is that it says the money is so far unclaimed):
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What usually goes wrong is you got my email address wrong. When that happens, it sends out an email to that address anyways and hopes if it's valid the party will sign up and claim the money. Most likely you typed a non-existant email address and it got lost in cyberspace forever.
Anyways, go back to Paypal and cancel that payment. It will be unclaimed (at least by me...when you get it right I don't have to claim it...I get it automatically). Then COPY and PASTE my email address in the space provided and use my last name: ZAMBONI in the field for that. This is an optional check that you got it right and Paypal will let you know if they don't match. Thanks
Here is how to copy and paste using Microsoft Windows:
Hold down the left mouse button while scrolling the mouse over my email address below:
[email protected]
It should turn blue. Then hold down the CONTROL key and at the same time press the C key. That copies whatever is highlighted to memory in your CLIPBOARD, a temporary holding area.
Then go the the place in Paypal where it asks for my email address. Click your mouse button one time in that window to let Windows know you want to work there. then hold down the CONTROL key once again and this time press the V key at the same time to PASTE what is in the CLIPBOARD (my email address) into that window.
That way there won't be any typos (you may have thought those were O's in my address when in fact they are Zeros. Anyways, the COPY and PASTE routine is VERY useful for may other things and after you get used to it you will find it a necessity.
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So yesterday, some buyer tells me he just paid and I checked and saw he was incorrect, so I sent him the above meaasge and he then replied, ok, he did it over and I should have it. I replied, no I still did not get it and asked him if he read what I sent and if he understood COPY and PASTE. He said he would try one more time, but that he had verification from Paypal that he had sent it. Then he said:
"Okay I did that. it looks like I will have to send you the payment via more traditional means. Oh well, I have the doc's in the mail. I will also be canceling the Pay PAl access acct. Too slow for me.
Using a pen is cheaper and faster."
Too slow? Pen cheaper and faster? I should have realized this fellow was playing with a short deck. So I ask him to send me the emails he got from Paypal.
His reply:
"I used the correct ad with OOO ( between the I O P on the keyboard).
My pay pal acct has just been canceled.............and chuckle I do know what cut and paste is.
This is my sixth ? seventh Pc since 1980. Chuckle!
I will mail things like I originally planned. Conrad"
So that was it. After a dozen email and 1/2 hour of my time over an $8.00 item, he shows his cards. Those were not Ohs in my email address but Zeros and he never even read the help text I sent him (twice) which would have solved the problem. So I cancelled his auctions blacklisted him and told him, what was the problem, and pointed out he was a moron.
Here is his reply about the COPY and PASTE method:
"Well, I didn't use it as I felt I didn't need it. And I didn't."
How about that line. He wasted 1/2 hour of my life, got a free computer lesson, botched up 3 paypal payments, cancelled out his paypal account, isn't going to get his game, and he says he didn't need to learn COPY and PASTE.
And of course he spent the rest of the evening bombarding me with emails with every obcenity in the book.
I know I should have had more patience, you say? I lost a customer. The customer is always right.
That's a load of manure. What we really need is a moron check.
That's right. Now when they sign up with their phoney credit card, and phoney email address, they should be given an IQ test as well!
posted on September 17, 2000 06:55:18 PM new
Their feedback rating wouldn't matter. They would have to pass an IQ test. Heck, Feedback didn't matter to the Yahoobots when they began the CC only validation for buyers.
BTW last night's mental midget didn't leave me bad feedback. Know why? He has a perfect +35 with no negatives. I'll be a dime to a dollar he knew if he did dis me, one was comming right back at him.
posted on September 18, 2000 09:08:25 AM new
Yes, you're probably right about that one. He also probably knows if he gets a neg. He can just trash your name to the extreme, cry to Yahoo that you were 'unfair' to him, and get his file cleared. It's happened far to many times to me and others. These losers know how to work Yahoo like a clock. He probably has threatened some sellers to give them a neg if they don't give him what he wants. Personally, I'll take the neg before I kiss someones backside.
posted on September 18, 2000 11:09:25 AM new
Hey, there's even more fun out there for the jerks! You can NW someone's auctions annonymously. That person will be unable to resubmit the item. And if you NW it under 4 separate IDs, the auction gets cancelled. I hear that Yahoo is now working on a feature that will let you edit other seller's auctions. What fun will they think of next?
posted on September 18, 2000 01:17:19 PM new
I believe in the NW activity, Customer Care makes the final call when four NWs are posted. It is not auotmatic.
But the way they are abandoning sellers on their site, in 'fairness' to the pranksters and deadbeats, it wouldn't surprise if they give them complete authority over the NW in the near future. They really want to give them all the help they need to ruin their site, and run off the sellers with good records. Why? Who can figure that one out??
posted on October 2, 2000 01:43:42 AM new
I really hate that NW. I have had 2 user IDs cancelled. I am 95% sure that it was because I was offering better prices on smart card readers than the competition. I really don't see the problem with selling them but it is their site and they make the rules. I just think that some people are abusing the NW to kill the competition.
posted on October 2, 2000 08:43:55 AM new
I AGREE AS WELL. I HAD A YEAR AGO THREE CHILDREN PLACE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON MY ACCOUNT, THEY NEVER BOUGHT ANYTHING.
and i emailed yahoo over and over with canned rsponse's. so i gave up. but until i leave yahoo i will respect the way they run their site. for now i placed 90% of my stock on 10 other auction houses. and run my specials on ebay on the weekends. it would be nice if yahoo would see that their are some really good sellers that have bad feedback from accounts that are bogus, but until then when in ROME !!!
startrek/wolftrek/h.o.s.t.
If you had two IDs canceled, you probably deserved it. Yahoo makes that call on termination of an ID, not the NW submitters. And the way they bend over backwards to give members a chance to repent, you probably ignored that opportunity.
Of course, people who are affected by the NW, who DO deserve actions against them, don't like it. Who cares about them, they deserve it, that's why it was started. The subject in this thread is about those using it as a prank, or in attempts to ruin a competitors.
posted on October 2, 2000 04:44:58 PM new
Like I said earlier, I see nothing wrong with selling smart card reader/writers. I do understand that it is their site and they can ban anything they please. They did not give me any chance to close my auctions the first time. I was at work. When I got home, I found two emails about 10 minutes apart. The first was a neighborhood watch alert. The second was a user ID termination. The second time, I replied to their email and asked if they could help me clean up my auction or tell me what was wrong with it. I still have not received a relevant response. All they seem to send me is the generic message stating that I have violated someone's intellectual property rights. My point was and still is that I do not like the fact that people are abusing the system to kill the competition. We all have oppinions, among other things. Yours is different than mine and I respect that. Lets agree to disagree.
posted on October 2, 2000 05:23:47 PM new
If you are looking to Yahoo for support, don't bother. I wrote to them after someone in South Korea bid on my auction that would not go away.
Their response: 'We don't "interfere" in buyer/seller aftercare'.
Isn't that cute. I've had better service on amazon. And that's saying a lot!
